[Z06] Shift light
Racer
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From: Springfield Virginia
Originally Posted by briann510
How can a shift light not work for someone? Thats an interesting comment...
Shift light comes on..you shift...pretty simple sounding to me...
Shift light comes on..you shift...pretty simple sounding to me...
Haven't hit the rev limiter since
Video of Raptor Shift light - Eye Level
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Z06 KOS
Here's a video of my Raptor shift light in action. I installed it right above eye level and its VERY bright red when it goes off. I set it at 6200 RPM to allow for reaction time.
Haven't hit the rev limiter since
Video of Raptor Shift light - Eye Level
Haven't hit the rev limiter since
Video of Raptor Shift light - Eye Level
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by zo6vetteman2003
Here is what I found. If you access the PCM, go to the red output plug and look for PIN #10. This should be a white wire where you would attach a shift light and the other side to a 12V source. Grounding can be to any grounding point. I don't know how accurate this is, I found it online regarding a shift light installation on a 01' ZO6.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...w/.ef17d75/574
Scroll down alittle. #579. It isn't well written at all.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...w/.ef17d75/574
Scroll down alittle. #579. It isn't well written at all.
Robert
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From: Springfield Virginia
Originally Posted by zo6vetteman2003
Sweet!
My buddy says it "blinds" him when it goes off and he instictively moves his left clutch leg...lol
Better video of Raptor in action - can see bracket mounting
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Robert56
Yes, that's the wire for a after market shift light, which you can set at one rpm only. I want to find the HUD light wire, which by going into HP Tuner you can put what ever rpm you want into each of the six gears.
Robert
Robert
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by Z06 KOS
Here is better video of the Raptor in action. Notice the bracket mounting and how bright it is.
My buddy says it "blinds" him when it goes off and he instictively moves his left clutch leg...lol
Better video of Raptor in action - can see bracket mounting
My buddy says it "blinds" him when it goes off and he instictively moves his left clutch leg...lol
Better video of Raptor in action - can see bracket mounting
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St. Jude Donor '06
Here's my blue Raptor shift light going through its start up sequence. It is bright, you won't miss it when you need to shift!
Raptor Shift Light
Raptor Shift Light
Drifting
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From: Middleboro Massachusetts
Originally Posted by JimBacus
Here's my blue Raptor shift light going through its start up sequence. It is bright, you won't miss it when you need to shift!
Raptor Shift Light
Raptor Shift Light
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From: Edgewood WA
Originally Posted by Ranger
Think about your reaction time at the tree as it blinks yellow...yellow...yellow...green. You have three warnings of the impending green and yet most drivers cannot produce a consistent near perfect light.
Now imagine a single flash, to which you must react. Will your reaction time be the same every time?
Add to that, most simple shiftlights have a single rpm set point. But the engine revs progressively slower as car speed increases. The driver must adapt to that. 1-2 shift immediate on the light; 2-3 pause and shift; 3-4 pause, pause and shift. It takes a lot of practice.
Just a thought.
Ranger
Now imagine a single flash, to which you must react. Will your reaction time be the same every time?
Add to that, most simple shiftlights have a single rpm set point. But the engine revs progressively slower as car speed increases. The driver must adapt to that. 1-2 shift immediate on the light; 2-3 pause and shift; 3-4 pause, pause and shift. It takes a lot of practice.
Just a thought.
Ranger
)Also, while I grew up shifting by listening to the engine for shift points (couldn't always afford a tach and most cars didn't have them) I find it difficult to believe that many people could hear the difference between 6.4K and 6.5K engine speed if that is where they were shifting. Why do most of the expensive pro tachs have shift lights? Humm, must be an advantage in some form.
Just my .02 cents, this is a fun thread.
Drifting
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From: Reynoldsburg oh
I went with an autometer shift light from Jegs
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0337&langId=-1
I mounted it on the a pillar like everyone else here has. If you cant see this light when it lights up you must be stevie wonder..
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0337&langId=-1
I mounted it on the a pillar like everyone else here has. If you cant see this light when it lights up you must be stevie wonder..
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From: Springfield Virginia
Originally Posted by RPOZ16
I agree with Ranger. But, I don't think that many people would just be looking straight ahead and wait for the shift light to flash. If they did the reaction time would be slow. I watch the tach climb and once it crosses 6K I am waiting for the light. The HUD isn't bright enough for me (probably a function of my age )
Also, while I grew up shifting by listening to the engine for shift points (couldn't always afford a tach and most cars didn't have them) I find it difficult to believe that many people could hear the difference between 6.4K and 6.5K engine speed if that is where they were shifting. Why do most of the expensive pro tachs have shift lights? Humm, must be an advantage in some form.
Just my .02 cents, this is a fun thread.
)Also, while I grew up shifting by listening to the engine for shift points (couldn't always afford a tach and most cars didn't have them) I find it difficult to believe that many people could hear the difference between 6.4K and 6.5K engine speed if that is where they were shifting. Why do most of the expensive pro tachs have shift lights? Humm, must be an advantage in some form.
Just my .02 cents, this is a fun thread.
Everyone told me to get used to the V8 sound and the lower fuel cutoff point, meanwhile I kept hitting the rev limiter so I was like "forget this!" and got a shift light.
Been a happy camper since
Racer
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From: Fort Lauderdale
Originally Posted by Ranger
Very difficult to see the HUD shiftlight in the fast moving action at the drag strip. Plus that shift light lags the actual engine rpm.
With that in mind, you are better off either (1) getting a real shiftlight, like the Raptor, or (2) learning the rhythm of your engine's sounds, like most of us do.
Ranger
With that in mind, you are better off either (1) getting a real shiftlight, like the Raptor, or (2) learning the rhythm of your engine's sounds, like most of us do.
Ranger
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From: Central Florida
Originally Posted by sskeet
I used the stock shift light on the HUD at the track the other night and nailed every shift perfect...and that was my first time at the track with the Z (Ive had it for 1 month) and I have very little drag racing experience with manual cars..
Might want to consider though that there is a difference between making good shifts (1) that miss the limiter and (2) making shifts just before the limiter. It's number (2) that yields the fastest times. If you can manage (2) using the HUD shiftlight, then you should be running between 11.9 and 12.3. If your times were in that range, please let us know.
Ranger
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by RPOZ16
Why do most of the expensive pro tachs have shift lights? Humm, must be an advantage in some form.
Just my .02 cents, this is a fun thread.
Just my .02 cents, this is a fun thread.
I think if we look at the fast Z06 list, you'll find that the vast majority do not use a shift light. Furthermore, if you look at who is using the shift light you'll se they are not on the list. This should be a tell tale factor for going fast, as has been stated. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone using a light, if it helps you fine. I just think on our cars tring to look at the tach and trying to be aware of a shift light is less than ideal, imo. I tried all the combos and found for me, I am quicker using just the tach, and am thinking of an after market to mount on dash higher.
Robert
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St. Jude Donor '06
Just for a little perspective, I find mine useful on a road coarse not a drag strip. 
Sometimes there are so many things going on with cars around you and such that the shift light can give you a gentle reminder before the rev limiter does.
Sometimes there are so many things going on with cars around you and such that the shift light can give you a gentle reminder before the rev limiter does.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by TSDuke
Good lord, you guys sure are a judgemental bunch. If somebody wants to use a shift light, then use it. What's wrong with that?
Robert
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From: Central Florida
Originally Posted by TSDuke
Good lord, you guys sure are a judgemental bunch. If somebody wants to use a shift light, then use it. What's wrong with that?
Like just about any topic on Vettes or life...there are many opinions and the person seeking an answer must evaluate the responses and draw conclusions.
Ranger
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From: N Carolina 08 Z51 Coupe
Originally Posted by Robert56
Yes, that's the wire for a after market shift light, which you can set at one rpm only. I want to find the HUD light wire, which by going into HP Tuner you can put what ever rpm you want into each of the six gears.
Robert
Robert
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From: Augusta GA
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
I have a raptor here sitting at the house waitng for my car to get back from the HC swap. My 01 does not have a hud (early build, May 20th...) so I had to peak at the tach. I am not in the fast crowd so I need all the help I can get 
I have been trying to shift right @ redline (7K now) to help get into a better spot on the next gear. I find with 342s the 3rd to 4th is a bit long and I need to be just about to kiss it beofe the shift. Last week at the track I kissed it in 3rd even though I was @ 6900 
Too bad as the GN beside me well, it was beside me not in back of me!
Dave
PS Tucker you find what you where looking for earlier brother? Hope the shop I called you from can help you out. PLease let me know if I can help out.
I have been trying to shift right @ redline (7K now) to help get into a better spot on the next gear. I find with 342s the 3rd to 4th is a bit long and I need to be just about to kiss it beofe the shift. Last week at the track I kissed it in 3rd even though I was @ 6900 Too bad as the GN beside me well, it was beside me not in back of me!Dave
PS Tucker you find what you where looking for earlier brother? Hope the shop I called you from can help you out. PLease let me know if I can help out.