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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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I've got a 2002 coupe. It's got 16,000 miles on it and the OEM's are shot. I'd like to replace them with something different. The most important things to me are treadware, ride, cornering and traction. In that order.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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I've got a 2002 coupe. It's got 16,000 miles on it and the OEM's are shot. I'd like to replace them with something different. The most important things to me are treadware, ride, cornering and traction. In that order.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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GoodYear GS-D3.... Tire Rack, Sam's Club
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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...then check out a recent edition of Car & Driver. Although they "only" used a 325 BMW as a test mule, you are very likely to experience similar results with your C5. To minimize variables such as driving techniques, track surface temps, etc, C&D enlisted the help of the Tire Rack and their test mule vehicle. Although the track used was small, it's lined with sprinklers that can soak the asphalt. "It took three days to perform all the tests. We accerated to 50 mph and then braked to a standstill. There was a benefit to that lower speed: It ensured that we were measuring the braking performance of the tires and not just brake fade."

"In addition to factoring the wet and dry scores, we gave points based on a tires's price and tread-wear grade, which is a rough estimate of how long a tire will have usable tread." "Our test focused on measuring performance, so we decided that results in the dry-lateral grip, for example - would carry the most weight."

So, without further adeau, here're the results:

(Best to worst):

NUMBER 1: Goodyear GSD3: "As an all-around performance tire, you can't beat this Goodyear. It was the best performer in all three wet-track tests and was very competent in the dry. It generated .94g on the dry skidpad, only .01g off the first place (dry) BFGoodrich and tied with the Yokohama and Hankook.
The Goodyear gripped so well, that you might not have been certain that the road was wet. It held onto the wet track with .82g of stick, an impressive figure considering the worst tire in that test made only .67g.
...And like the Continental, the Goodyear had a high 280 trad-wear grade. At $145, ieach, it's $34 cheaper than the most expensive (guess which tires have THAT distinction!).

2nd place: Continental ContiSportContact 2: "It simply didn't feel as sporty as the others.....on dry surfaces, the Conti never rose above third from last among 11 tires. It felt soft and imprecise. But in the wet, the spread from best to worse was 15 percent, which made for a larger point spread (giving the Contis a boost). Plus the Continental had a 280tread-wear grade that was the highest (tied) for this test.

3rd place: Yokohama Advan Neova AD07: Excellent dry performance, but a bit on the slippery end in the wet stuff - expensive at $175 apiece.

4th place: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: "At $179, the PS2 is the most expensive tire in the test." Competent, but expensive sums up this tire.

5th place: Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212: At $99 each, these are the least expensive tires - very good on dry pavement, but "greasy and slow to recover" on the wet stuff.

6th place: Dunlop SP Sport Max: "In the dry, the tire seemed to lose its confidence..."

7th place: Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico:"In the dry-lateral-grip test, the Pirelli tied for second to last, and it finished seventh in the dry-braking test.

8th place: Toyo Proxes T1R: "...the Proxes never placed higher than eighth in any test"...nuff said!

9th place: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A: "it felt dull and disconnected and was somewhat soft and imprecise when driven hard."

10th place: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD: Outstanding performance on dry surfaces, but very scary on wet surfaces - don't get caught in a rainstorm wearing these shoes...

11th place: Kumho Ecsta MX: "They didn't offer much grip and the time of 30.28 seconds in the dry autocross was .62 second slower than the fastest tire. That may not seem like much, but our course was only 0.3 mille long, and on a longer track, that gap would be commensurately greater." "And although the MX - at $136 per - was the third-least-expensive tire in our test, the high score in the price category wasn't enough to regain ground lost in the performance tests."

On a congratulatory note, the first place tire is made right here in the USA by an American tire company
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rws.1
GoodYear GS-D3.... Tire Rack, Sam's Club


Awesome tire, great wet and dry traction... Lots of grip which leads to lots of

I'm on my second set, but I sort of abuse mine... See sig...

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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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I would stay away from Goodyear. I have a set with 2000 miles on them with a bubble in the sidewall, and it looks like Goodyear will not warranty it. A bubble according to Goodyear is from trama not a defect in workmanship. This is my last set of Goodyears.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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I've been running Goodyears on and off for the last 25 years and have never had any serious issues. Not only does the Tire Rack highly recommend the D3s, but magazine after magazine praises their incredible performance in all types of weather (well, except snow and ice, of course).

Don't let one bad experience deprive you of the very best.
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Originally Posted by pete51
I've got a 2002 coupe. It's got 16,000 miles on it and the OEM's are shot. I'd like to replace them with something different. The most important things to me are treadware, ride, cornering and traction. In that order.
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Pete first off, are you going with another runflat or a regular performance tire? Is price a consideration? What is most important, straight line traction or lateral stability and handling? Then I can give you an opinion on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Dave68
Don't let one bad experience deprive you of the very best.
I bought my first set of goodyears on my first car (1970) I have always used them, if their policy now is not to stand behind them, then I am moving on to something else.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by C5naples
I bought my first set of goodyears on my first car (1970) I have always used them, if their policy now is not to stand behind them, then I am moving on to something else.
That does it for me as well. I thought that was covered under workmanship.
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The Goodyear GS-D3 is great tire from all accounts, but if you're going to a plus one conversion like I am - these tires are only available in a very limited size range. If you are retaining the stock sizes, it's a good choice.

One thing I do like about the GY is the fact that it is made in the USA and the company is as American as Chevrolet and apple pie.
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I'm seriously looking at the GS-D3s also. Everything I have seen says it is a very good tire and has a good treadwear rating.
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I have also heard alot of good things about Falken Fk451 tires. Apparently good value and decent results.

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pete51
I've got a 2002 coupe. It's got 16,000 miles on it and the OEM's are shot. I'd like to replace them with something different. The most important things to me are treadware, ride, cornering and traction. In that order.
The OEM Goodyears are noisy, especially once they start to wear, as you are likely already know.

My fronts wore out before the rears - for the price, I bought Firestone (Runflats)...a year later, Firestones on the rear. They are good on both wear and ride, and on a warm road, traction and cornering are good. Do Ok in rain, too.

BUT

the rears can be very slippery in the mid 30s and under.
Even after 3 hrs at 70+ interstate driving, the rears broke loose on a from-a-dead-stop turn. (With TC on, no less) Air temp was about 30, clear and sunny.

OTOH, they are a couple hundred less per tire than GYs.


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Originally Posted by 99Red&White
I have also heard alot of good things about Falken Fk451 tires. Apparently good value and decent results.

Jason
i was looking at these as well, for the money since i dont want to spend $1400 on a set of OEM, Yoko, etc.

I wonder if anyone else has any experiences with this tire, and if we choose not to get the run-flats what precautions should we take. My C5 has 25k miles on it and the back tires are pretty wore so maybe i should just replace the back with OEM or for the same price get an entire set of Nittos, Falken, or ??
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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I just put on a set of Kumoh ECSTA ASX’s. $800 out the door with warranty at Discount Tire. I guess they are not rated to good for any type of competition but I have a daily driver and they work just fine for me. They have a 400 tread wear, are very quite and are not directional so you could rotate them side to side if you wanted. The problem with real quite tires is that you start hearing all the rest of the noises you never heard before.
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Just Bought Aset Of Yokohama Avs Sport,super Looks,dry/wet Traction. Put Them On My '97.
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