Oil Change Question
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Oil Change Question
I've read all the archives and debates on how often and how many miles and how many quarts, but still have 2 questions (before I drain it and find out I need something). 1) Is there a washer on the drain bolt that gets replaced at each oil change, and 2) is there a torque spec on the bolt (or on the filter)?
Is there a comprehensive post on this?
I couldn't find one.
Is there a comprehensive post on this?
I couldn't find one.
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i think the washer is built onto the bolt
you should be able to free it with hand/arm pressure/force and tighten similarly if not snug plus a bit...
there is no pressure in the sump (if i understand it right) so really your just interested in tightening it from rattling free, over tighten with a tool will risk the next change turning into a nightmare ordeal of drilling out a stuck bolt , retapping it, etc
prefill your oil-filter , and swipe a lick of oil around its oring also (dont forget to retrieve the first oil filters seal in case its up there still)
its the usual rule to remove the bolt - lefty loosey.... as i was so vehemently spanked into recognizing ...
your doing the right thing to ask in advance
run the car for a bit before you are ready, warmer oil will drain nicely..
you should be able to free it with hand/arm pressure/force and tighten similarly if not snug plus a bit...
there is no pressure in the sump (if i understand it right) so really your just interested in tightening it from rattling free, over tighten with a tool will risk the next change turning into a nightmare ordeal of drilling out a stuck bolt , retapping it, etc
prefill your oil-filter , and swipe a lick of oil around its oring also (dont forget to retrieve the first oil filters seal in case its up there still)
its the usual rule to remove the bolt - lefty loosey.... as i was so vehemently spanked into recognizing ...
your doing the right thing to ask in advance
run the car for a bit before you are ready, warmer oil will drain nicely..
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Originally Posted by Freestyler
i think the washer is built onto the bolt
you should be able to free it with hand/arm pressure/force and tighten similarly if not snug plus a bit...
there is no pressure in the sump (if i understand it right) so really your just interested in tightening it from rattling free, over tighten with a tool will risk the next change turning into a nightmare ordeal of drilling out a stuck bolt , retapping it, etc
prefill your oil-filter , and swipe a lick of oil around its oring also (dont forget to retrieve the first oil filters seal in case its up there still)
its the usual rule to remove the bolt - lefty loosey.... as i was so vehemently spanked into recognizing ...
your doing the right thing to ask in advance
run the car for a bit before you are ready, warmer oil will drain nicely..
you should be able to free it with hand/arm pressure/force and tighten similarly if not snug plus a bit...
there is no pressure in the sump (if i understand it right) so really your just interested in tightening it from rattling free, over tighten with a tool will risk the next change turning into a nightmare ordeal of drilling out a stuck bolt , retapping it, etc
prefill your oil-filter , and swipe a lick of oil around its oring also (dont forget to retrieve the first oil filters seal in case its up there still)
its the usual rule to remove the bolt - lefty loosey.... as i was so vehemently spanked into recognizing ...
your doing the right thing to ask in advance
run the car for a bit before you are ready, warmer oil will drain nicely..
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Originally Posted by 72TTop
I've read all the archives and debates on how often and how many miles and how many quarts, but still have 2 questions (before I drain it and find out I need something). 1) Is there a washer on the drain bolt that gets replaced at each oil change, and 2) is there a torque spec on the bolt (or on the filter)?
Is there a comprehensive post on this?
I couldn't find one.
Is there a comprehensive post on this?
I couldn't find one.
2) 18 Ft Lbs for the Oil Pan Drain Plug. (Make sure it's good and tight)
Make the Oil Filter hand tight plus 1/4 turn. I just make it hand
tight which is pretty tight. Make sure to coat the Oil Filter gasket with oil before installation.
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I did the first oil change in my 04 Z last summer; my oil drain plug had a rubber o-ring seal. I replaced it eventhough the original one was probably still good.
The P/N is: 3536966; I paid $1.21 for it but I always replace them in each of my vehicles out of habit!
The P/N is: 3536966; I paid $1.21 for it
but I always replace them in each of my vehicles out of habit!
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thanks for the replies, although there is contradictory information 18 ft/pds, vs 22 ft/lbs...
and some say the washer is built in, while some say rubber O ring, however, i'll find that out when i pull the plug the first time. Anybody have a different answer than 22 or 18 pounds torque, or want to confirm one of those? or is the "z" different than a non Z car.
and I'm ordering the magnetic plug today !!
and some say the washer is built in, while some say rubber O ring, however, i'll find that out when i pull the plug the first time. Anybody have a different answer than 22 or 18 pounds torque, or want to confirm one of those? or is the "z" different than a non Z car.
and I'm ordering the magnetic plug today !!
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the washer is fixed, .... and im fairly sure there is a layer of rubber on the inside part of it to function as the o-ring.
crap out some old PC hard drives and get the magnets from them , laythem on the outside of the oil filter and save yourself the 50$ for the magfilter (same magnets...just 'packaged in a nice housing... ... who cares about that for saving 50 bucks right?), the plug can filter out to ... well read about the magfilter plug AND oil-filter magnets here: http://www.mag-filter.com/
crap out some old PC hard drives and get the magnets from them , laythem on the outside of the oil filter and save yourself the 50$ for the magfilter (same magnets...just 'packaged in a nice housing... ... who cares about that for saving 50 bucks right?), the plug can filter out to ... well read about the magfilter plug AND oil-filter magnets here: http://www.mag-filter.com/
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Originally Posted by 72TTop
thanks for the replies, although there is contradictory information 18 ft/pds, vs 22 ft/lbs...
and some say the washer is built in, while some say rubber O ring, however, i'll find that out when i pull the plug the first time. Anybody have a different answer than 22 or 18 pounds torque, or want to confirm one of those? or is the "z" different than a non Z car.
and I'm ordering the magnetic plug today !!
and some say the washer is built in, while some say rubber O ring, however, i'll find that out when i pull the plug the first time. Anybody have a different answer than 22 or 18 pounds torque, or want to confirm one of those? or is the "z" different than a non Z car.
and I'm ordering the magnetic plug today !!
The Oil Pan Drain Plug is 18 ft-lbs.
The Oil Filter is 22 ft-lbs.
Two different torques for two different items.
