[Z06] dealer offered me...
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 1999
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From: Vilano Beach FL
Howdy!
A quick look on Edmunds shows a '95 (which has to be an RT/10) at $27K dealer retail, and an '04 Z at $36K. Even if you give the Dodge a little bump for rarity and the Z a little bump down for "new model depreciation", still not a good deal.
That's an 11 year old car too - I mean, even with low mileage things start deteriorating - hoses, bushings, interior. Your Z I assume was new or nearly new, *plus* it's still (I would figure) under the factory warranty!
There are plenty of Viper's in the used market, so it's easy to find one if you want one. Keep in mind this is the 400HP model, without TC, without AH, etc., etc. It definitely has the exclusivity factor though, if you need it.
Anytime I start shopping, I just keep playing it out in my head, and I come back to my existing ride. If you want to keep your Z fresh, just keep tweaking your already amazing ride!
When it starts feeling a little stale, upgrade some cosmetic items. Nothing adds a little wow factor to a car than a set of aftermarket wheels! A nice set of CCW or IForged and your ride is totally new and ~custom~. Or some nice interior upgrades from VE? A tricked out interior is easy to do, doesn't effect the warranty, and makes the car more fun.
I'm doing the same thing because every car gets old to me pretty quick. So instead of taking the plunge into some thing new/different (911/TT, new Z06) I'm going to keep tweaking the existing ride with that new car money (which would still be modified, so I'd be in the same boat, but starting with a $40K deficit!)
Good luck
A quick look on Edmunds shows a '95 (which has to be an RT/10) at $27K dealer retail, and an '04 Z at $36K. Even if you give the Dodge a little bump for rarity and the Z a little bump down for "new model depreciation", still not a good deal.
That's an 11 year old car too - I mean, even with low mileage things start deteriorating - hoses, bushings, interior. Your Z I assume was new or nearly new, *plus* it's still (I would figure) under the factory warranty!
There are plenty of Viper's in the used market, so it's easy to find one if you want one. Keep in mind this is the 400HP model, without TC, without AH, etc., etc. It definitely has the exclusivity factor though, if you need it.
Anytime I start shopping, I just keep playing it out in my head, and I come back to my existing ride. If you want to keep your Z fresh, just keep tweaking your already amazing ride!
When it starts feeling a little stale, upgrade some cosmetic items. Nothing adds a little wow factor to a car than a set of aftermarket wheels! A nice set of CCW or IForged and your ride is totally new and ~custom~. Or some nice interior upgrades from VE? A tricked out interior is easy to do, doesn't effect the warranty, and makes the car more fun.
I'm doing the same thing because every car gets old to me pretty quick. So instead of taking the plunge into some thing new/different (911/TT, new Z06) I'm going to keep tweaking the existing ride with that new car money (which would still be modified, so I'd be in the same boat, but starting with a $40K deficit!)
Good luck
Team Owner
Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Virginia Beach
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Pre-1996 is the GEN-1 viper... it has an iron block and is notorious for head gasket leaks. If you think the corvette has a cheapo interor go check out a Viper... nice way to put it would be "spartan".
The car isn't very fast... high 12's at absolute best... usually they test as a low 13 second car.
They get hot as crap inside... and as allready brought up your car is worth high 30's and that Viper is worth high 20's and you have your factory warranty.
If you want a Viper look for a '96+ from a private owner enthusiast. I believe in 2001 they finally got ABS.
The car isn't very fast... high 12's at absolute best... usually they test as a low 13 second car.
They get hot as crap inside... and as allready brought up your car is worth high 30's and that Viper is worth high 20's and you have your factory warranty.
If you want a Viper look for a '96+ from a private owner enthusiast. I believe in 2001 they finally got ABS.
Racer
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From: Naperville IL
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...n&cardist=1725
more miles than the one u are looking at, but its a 1998!
more miles than the one u are looking at, but its a 1998!
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 1999
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From: Vilano Beach FL
Hey Mike!
Just an FYI,
In '95 there was only one Viper variant, the RT/10 which *is* a roadster (it wasn't until MY96 that the GTS was introduced and the RT/10 had a small HP bump). The $26.6K look like what I saw on Edmunds, not sure what the other $34K might be for? Maybe just a type in your book or something
DT
Just an FYI,
In '95 there was only one Viper variant, the RT/10 which *is* a roadster (it wasn't until MY96 that the GTS was introduced and the RT/10 had a small HP bump). The $26.6K look like what I saw on Edmunds, not sure what the other $34K might be for? Maybe just a type in your book or something
DT
Originally Posted by MP2003Anniv50thVert
Based on dealer wholesale numbers the,
Z is worth $37,600 clean book
vs. the Viper which is worth $34,200 clean book (Roadster)
or $26,600 clean book (RT/10).
He's trying to make a quick $3K+ on you and the thing is that an '04 Z with those miles will only go up in the next few months as people try to buy a super low-mileage one. We have buyers right now for your Z but I suspect not too many for the Viper. Good luck whatever you decide and sometimes it comes down to what you want vs. the money aspect but just don't get burned by dealer tactics. We should know!
Mike Pierce
www.MintCorvettes.com
Z is worth $37,600 clean book
vs. the Viper which is worth $34,200 clean book (Roadster)
or $26,600 clean book (RT/10).
He's trying to make a quick $3K+ on you and the thing is that an '04 Z with those miles will only go up in the next few months as people try to buy a super low-mileage one. We have buyers right now for your Z but I suspect not too many for the Viper. Good luck whatever you decide and sometimes it comes down to what you want vs. the money aspect but just don't get burned by dealer tactics. We should know!
Mike Pierce
www.MintCorvettes.com
Le Mans Master
Joined: Feb 1999
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From: Vilano Beach FL
No problem Mike - I didn't want to sound all "know-it-all", I just looked it up over the VCA/Viper site because I was curious myself
Take care buddy!
DT
Take care buddy!
DT
Originally Posted by MP2003Anniv50thVert
DT,
I stand corrected, thank you. Just took a look at the actual wholesale numbers and it's well below $34K for the Viper,
11/09/05 MILWAUKE $30,000 21,410 BLACK
10/19/05 ATLANTA $27,600 24,864 BLACK
10/18/05 LAUD/MIA $19,800 41,006 YELLOW
09/28/05 DAYTONA $27,000 47,877 GREEN
08/25/05 MANHEIM $31,300 9,098 BLACK
08/10/05 SEATTLE $30,100 20,152 RED
12/21/04 STATESVL $24,200 35,969 BLACK
12/07/04 STATESVL $29,000 35,882 BLACK
Mike Pierce
www.MintCorvettes.com
I stand corrected, thank you. Just took a look at the actual wholesale numbers and it's well below $34K for the Viper,
11/09/05 MILWAUKE $30,000 21,410 BLACK
10/19/05 ATLANTA $27,600 24,864 BLACK
10/18/05 LAUD/MIA $19,800 41,006 YELLOW
09/28/05 DAYTONA $27,000 47,877 GREEN
08/25/05 MANHEIM $31,300 9,098 BLACK
08/10/05 SEATTLE $30,100 20,152 RED
12/21/04 STATESVL $24,200 35,969 BLACK
12/07/04 STATESVL $29,000 35,882 BLACK
Mike Pierce
www.MintCorvettes.com
Racer
Joined: Aug 2004
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From: Nashville, TN
Gmpp
Now that you are going to keep it make sure you protect yourself with an extended warranty. Fitchner sponsoring Chev dealer has great pricing. No warranty on the Viper could have been real expensive. You can buy GMPP anytime you base warranty is in effect.
Jeff
Jeff
