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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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hello everyone i was thinking about doing the head and cam upgrade. I want some advice form those of you who have done it! Websites would be GREAT! Maybe an idea of how long it takes to install. Any info. that could help me. sounds clips, videos, pics are all appreciated.

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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I may be out of place here, but be sure you talk also to those that wish they had not done, hey good luck
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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... i guess im used to seeing a reply within minutes of posting...
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Best mod so far next to the torque converter. I love to drive this car now. Stock feels sooo slow now.

Took about a week to do the work, took my sweet time.
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[http://ls1howto.com/index.php?article=1

With practice, this can be done in a day. If you are mechanically inclined, it can be done in 3 days.

Here's a vid or 2

http://grondpix.com/bent-valve/bullets-idle1.avi
http://grondpix.com/grond-monstercam1.mov

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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I was hoping you would stop by EG, BTW when are you coming down here?

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I was hoping you would stop by EG, BTW when are you coming down here?

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In 2 weeks
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After hearing your car EG, I definately want to do this! What about did it cost you? And what tools did you need? You did it by yourself (by this i mean at home with help) correct? maybe once you get down here and I pick up some extra cash we could get together and do the work!

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BTW I am new at this. I put my Bullets on and that is about all I feel comfortable doing on my own at this point. Hope to see you round town soon.
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One word of caution. I think the Corvettes come from the factory with a good setup for 'normal' driving. If you expect to see more hp/torque in the 1500-3000 RPM range, with good idle, then I'd recommend the largest cam you go with is something in the stock LS6 range; i.e., 204/218 .550 117 LSA. Longer duration or smaller LSA will move the power band up in the RPM range. This is fine if you want to drive at 3000+ RPM. I mean that with no sarcasm; add headers and exhaust and 3000+ sounds great! If you have an A4 you might want a stall converter to 'force' you to drive at a higher RPM.

Same idea with heads. Go with smaller intake runners and higher velocity for more power at the lower RPMS. Even ported LS6 heads really need 3000+ RPMs to kick in.
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One word of caution. I think the Corvettes come from the factory with a good setup for 'normal' driving. If you expect to see more hp/torque in the 1500-3000 RPM range, with good idle, then I'd recommend the largest cam you go with is something in the stock LS6 range; i.e., 204/218 .550 117 LSA. Longer duration or smaller LSA will move the power band up in the RPM range. This is fine if you want to drive at 3000+ RPM. I mean that with no sarcasm; add headers and exhaust and 3000+ sounds great! If you have an A4 you might want a stall converter to 'force' you to drive at a higher RPM.

Same idea with heads. Go with smaller intake runners and higher velocity for more power at the lower RPMS. Even ported LS6 heads really need 3000+ RPMs to kick in.
You have got to be kidding, right????

The days of grandpa cams is OLD SCHOOL! It's ALL in the tune these days.

LG G5X-3, headers, heads, intake = 450rwhp that is 100% streetable.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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You have got to be kidding, right????

The days of grandpa cams is OLD SCHOOL! It's ALL in the tune these days.

LG G5X-3, headers, heads, intake = 450rwhp that is 100% streetable.
I'll stick with you on this one Let me know when you are down and settled and how much I am going to need to gather up to get a nice BIG cam!

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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http://www.lmperformance.com/3744/4.html

This the cam you mean EG??
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I have nothing but good things to say about getting a H/C package. The only dn side is that you can kiss your city MPG good bye because you will not be able to keep your foot out of it Another dn side is that if your clutch is stock, you can kiss that goodbye also. Mine would just stick to the floor at WOT when it was stock. Now I have a large cam and I do get a buck at around 1300RPM and lower....big cams hate low RPM's but ECS is working on a new tuning software that might resolve this. The point about the bucking....if you drive in traffic, it can get old fast but who does that anyway. On the HWY I average between 26-27mpg crusing at 70-75. On a postive note, the power is wonderful and the sound can wet your shorts . Hope this is helpful
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will this burn out my A4 clutch??? My MPG has went down since I put my B&B Bullets on! its at 16 average now.
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
You have got to be kidding, right????

The days of grandpa cams is OLD SCHOOL! It's ALL in the tune these days.

LG G5X-3, headers, heads, intake = 450rwhp that is 100% streetable.
I don't disagree with you about the RWHP or streetability. I just point out the benefits of the h/c require the driver to 'punch it' from a stop; i.e., rev up to at least 2500-3000 RPM. This is fine too. Just don't think your 'normal' 1500 RPM start is going to feel any different than stock. It may even feel more sluggish, especially for us A4 drivers.
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Originally Posted by vertc51116
will this burn out my A4 clutch??? My MPG has went down since I put my B&B Bullets on! its at 16 average now.
The clutch in your A4 is in the torque converter. If you upgrade to a Fuddle street performance converter it has a heavy duty clutch plate.
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Originally Posted by Jim Taylor
I don't disagree with you about the RWHP or streetability. I just point out the benefits of the h/c require the driver to 'punch it' from a stop; i.e., rev up to at least 2500-3000 RPM. This is fine too. Just don't think your 'normal' 1500 RPM start is going to feel any different than stock. It may even feel more sluggish, especially for us A4 drivers.
It does feel different from stock, it doesn't move as much at low revs. You need to give it a little more gas. It's not as drastic as you make it sound. It's not bad, just different.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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The clutch in your A4 is in the torque converter. If you upgrade to a Fuddle street performance converter it has a heavy duty clutch plate.
where can i get one of these? how much is it ans how much work is it to do??

Thanks for all the help.

sorry bout the newb questions

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where can i get one of these? how much is it ans how much work is it to do??

Thanks for all the help.

sorry bout the newb questions

Doug
Here is the link: www.fuddleracing.com

They cost around $500.00 for the performance street series. Excellent product, value and great customer service.

It's a big job, I did mine myself, but if you're new to it, you should get some help or hire someone. I got a price of $650.00 to install it from a local vendor, but I have heard of much cheaper prices, as low as $300.00. You will also want to add a transmission cooler with a high stall converter.

Your car will be a slingshot! I grin every time I hit the pedal.
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