Question for "Low Riders"
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Originally Posted by Sharad
question:
These lowered C5s look outstanding! My question is, the black plastic wind deflector thingy under the nose... Surely you guys with the lowered C5s can't go over ANY kind of a speed bump, right? If I buy a C5 (long story) I'll HAVE to lower it. But just pulling into my driveway, I think it'll scrape. (and it doesn't have a curb at the end of the driveway)
So let's hear it. Is it impossible to drive these things on public streets sitting that low??
These lowered C5s look outstanding! My question is, the black plastic wind deflector thingy under the nose... Surely you guys with the lowered C5s can't go over ANY kind of a speed bump, right? If I buy a C5 (long story) I'll HAVE to lower it. But just pulling into my driveway, I think it'll scrape. (and it doesn't have a curb at the end of the driveway)
So let's hear it. Is it impossible to drive these things on public streets sitting that low??
Most important change in thinking might seem obvious, but it's one that most people do not grasp. Your C5 is NOT an SUV: stop driving it like one.
I know that sounds stupid, but you would be surprised at the sheer number of C5 owners I have observed driving their C5 like SUVs or Camrys. They just barrel along over speed humps, ramps, shopping center parking lots, transitions etc. They park nose in. They do not slow down for anything.
So, if you lower your car, learn to drive a lowered car. All transitions must be taken at a 45 degree angle and s-l-o-w-l-y, thought has to be given to potholes, manhole covers etc.
My somewhwt belaboured point is - think while driving. I have driven more than 2000 miles since I lowered it as you see in the pic - and 23,000 miles on longer bolts and no front bolt.
I have done long trips through some of the worse roads in the nation (the Cross Bronx Expressway in NY), from CT to KY, CT to Canada - all over the place.
EG
Last edited by EG@EnglandGreen; Feb 11, 2006 at 09:55 AM.
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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
P.S. My unlowered daily driver is getting lowered this weekend. Hey... I've only had it a couple months. Mods take time. 
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From: Meriden Ct
Not trying to highjack the thread,but I lowered mine on stock bolts and cut the bushings. The wheel weights of my right front tire are rubbing against something. Just wondering if anyone else had the same problem. The rubbing is slight, but enough to wear down the weight and make the car vibrate. 
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx,
Chris
Any help would be appreciated.Thanx,
Chris
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From: Rhode Island
Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
I can go most places and I can certainly get over speed humps. When you drive a lowered car - even just on stock bolts - it requires a different driving mindset.
Most important change in thinking might seem obvious, but it's one that most people do not grasp. Your C5 is NOT an SUV: stop driving it like one.
I know that sounds stupid, but you would be surprised at the sheer number of C5 owners I have observed driving their C5 like SUVs or Camrys. They just barrel along over speed humps, ramps, shopping center parking lots, transitions etc. They park nose in. They do not slow down for anything.
So, if you lower your car, learn to drive a lowered car. All transitions must be taken at a 45 degree angle and s-l-o-w-l-y, thought has to be given to potholes, manhole covers etc.
My somewhwt belaboured point is - think while driving. I have driven more than 2000 miles since I lowered it as you see in the pic - and 23,000 miles on longer bolts and no front bolt.
I have done long trips through some of the worse roads in the nation (the Cross Bronx Expressway in NY), from CT to KY, CT to Canada - all over the place.
EG
Most important change in thinking might seem obvious, but it's one that most people do not grasp. Your C5 is NOT an SUV: stop driving it like one.
I know that sounds stupid, but you would be surprised at the sheer number of C5 owners I have observed driving their C5 like SUVs or Camrys. They just barrel along over speed humps, ramps, shopping center parking lots, transitions etc. They park nose in. They do not slow down for anything.
So, if you lower your car, learn to drive a lowered car. All transitions must be taken at a 45 degree angle and s-l-o-w-l-y, thought has to be given to potholes, manhole covers etc.
My somewhwt belaboured point is - think while driving. I have driven more than 2000 miles since I lowered it as you see in the pic - and 23,000 miles on longer bolts and no front bolt.
I have done long trips through some of the worse roads in the nation (the Cross Bronx Expressway in NY), from CT to KY, CT to Canada - all over the place.
EG
, but the fact of the matter is, you can definitely be too low. (Unless it's just a show car or has air bags).
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From: Rhode Island
Originally Posted by Sharad
question:
These lowered C5s look outstanding! My question is, the black plastic wind deflector thingy under the nose... Surely you guys with the lowered C5s can't go over ANY kind of a speed bump, right? If I buy a C5 (long story) I'll HAVE to lower it. But just pulling into my driveway, I think it'll scrape. (and it doesn't have a curb at the end of the driveway)
So let's hear it. Is it impossible to drive these things on public streets sitting that low??
These lowered C5s look outstanding! My question is, the black plastic wind deflector thingy under the nose... Surely you guys with the lowered C5s can't go over ANY kind of a speed bump, right? If I buy a C5 (long story) I'll HAVE to lower it. But just pulling into my driveway, I think it'll scrape. (and it doesn't have a curb at the end of the driveway)
So let's hear it. Is it impossible to drive these things on public streets sitting that low??
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
Gonna have to disagree with you on this one EG. My car is not lowered nearly as much as yours and I can't get over most speed bumps without either scraping my headers or frame. And yes, I do know how to drive my car , but the fact of the matter is, you can definitely be too low. (Unless it's just a show car or has air bags).
, but the fact of the matter is, you can definitely be too low. (Unless it's just a show car or has air bags).2000 miles of everywhere since the coilovers with no problems.
If you want an objective opinion - ask Connecticut or Bill Curlee or Red Vette 93. All have driven with me over all sorts of terrain.
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From: Rhode Island
Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
We have 7 speed humps at work and I get over all of them just fine. I have Frame Savers and Rocker Rails and it scrapes on that. I did not say it wouldn't scrap - you just have to know how to approach humps. Yes, it annoys anyone behind you while you crawl over like an ant - oh well.
2000 miles of everywhere since the coilovers with no problems.
If you want an objective opinion - ask Connecticut or Bill Curlee or Red Vette 93. All have driven with me over all sorts of terrain.
2000 miles of everywhere since the coilovers with no problems.
If you want an objective opinion - ask Connecticut or Bill Curlee or Red Vette 93. All have driven with me over all sorts of terrain.
Scraping on your frame savers is not just fine. Do you also have header savers? No offense EG, just stating my opinion.
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Here's a little story:
I was driving at night this past summer on a return trip to the beach, and took the more scenic back-road route. I was in a line of cars evenly spaced moving at around forty, when BANG! I hit the lip of a resurfacing road. The road dept must have ground down the roadway in a very small section, and where it met the original road, instead of beveling the transition, they left a straight cut across the roadway perpendicular to the line of travel. Now this wouldn't have bothered a normal car since it was maybe two inches max, but with my lowered vette, it hit hard. The frame savers took some of it, but most of the impact went into the twin fans (lowered radiator). Busted my fan shroud at the lower clip (which is built into the twin fan unit). I was able to fabricate a temp fix, so we'll see how it runs this summer. Just in case, I bought a spare fan.
So, like EG says "be careful" lol, although some things sometimes can't be avoided
I was driving at night this past summer on a return trip to the beach, and took the more scenic back-road route. I was in a line of cars evenly spaced moving at around forty, when BANG! I hit the lip of a resurfacing road. The road dept must have ground down the roadway in a very small section, and where it met the original road, instead of beveling the transition, they left a straight cut across the roadway perpendicular to the line of travel. Now this wouldn't have bothered a normal car since it was maybe two inches max, but with my lowered vette, it hit hard. The frame savers took some of it, but most of the impact went into the twin fans (lowered radiator). Busted my fan shroud at the lower clip (which is built into the twin fan unit). I was able to fabricate a temp fix, so we'll see how it runs this summer. Just in case, I bought a spare fan.
So, like EG says "be careful" lol, although some things sometimes can't be avoided
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Originally Posted by Billy182
Here's a little story:
I was driving at night this past summer on a return trip to the beach, and took the more scenic back-road route. I was in a line of cars evenly spaced moving at around forty, when BANG! I hit the lip of a resurfacing road. The road dept must have ground down the roadway in a very small section, and where it met the original road, instead of beveling the transition, they left a straight cut across the roadway perpendicular to the line of travel. Now this wouldn't have bothered a normal car since it was maybe two inches max, but with my lowered vette, it hit hard. The frame savers took some of it, but most of the impact went into the twin fans (lowered radiator). Busted my fan shroud at the lower clip (which is built into the twin fan unit). I was able to fabricate a temp fix, so we'll see how it runs this summer. Just in case, I bought a spare fan.
So, like EG says "be careful" lol, although some things sometimes can't be avoided
I was driving at night this past summer on a return trip to the beach, and took the more scenic back-road route. I was in a line of cars evenly spaced moving at around forty, when BANG! I hit the lip of a resurfacing road. The road dept must have ground down the roadway in a very small section, and where it met the original road, instead of beveling the transition, they left a straight cut across the roadway perpendicular to the line of travel. Now this wouldn't have bothered a normal car since it was maybe two inches max, but with my lowered vette, it hit hard. The frame savers took some of it, but most of the impact went into the twin fans (lowered radiator). Busted my fan shroud at the lower clip (which is built into the twin fan unit). I was able to fabricate a temp fix, so we'll see how it runs this summer. Just in case, I bought a spare fan.
So, like EG says "be careful" lol, although some things sometimes can't be avoided
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From: How the hell can I make it faster???
Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
Amen to that. How are you Billy? I'm the guy you met at ECS a couple of weeks ago, I was getting a dyno tune.
I got my chromed alternator and brackets on, and it turned out great. I've already got the itch for the upcoming season, and can't wait to get out there!
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Originally Posted by Billy182
I'm doing great! How are you? What kind of dyno numbers did you get??? Did I mention how awesome your car sounded? (and that was from inside the shop!
I got my chromed alternator and brackets on, and it turned out great. I've already got the itch for the upcoming season, and can't wait to get out there!
I got my chromed alternator and brackets on, and it turned out great. I've already got the itch for the upcoming season, and can't wait to get out there!
That's an awesome car you have there. I think you need more HP though.
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From: Bentonville AR
Originally Posted by gr8vet
Here ya go with several results, I think I kinda like the 1" front, 1.5" rear. We will see with the new Aluminum next week...
! ! !I must say however, I like the EG LOW Look ! ! ! I lowered mine on the stock bolts and within 20 minutes I had it in the air replacing the rear bolts and cutting the front bushings.
But now I wish I had removed the front bolts all-together...that is a good Sunday project...
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
My opinion is also objective.
Scraping on your frame savers is not just fine. Do you also have header savers? No offense EG, just stating my opinion.
Scraping on your frame savers is not just fine. Do you also have header savers? No offense EG, just stating my opinion.
It's all relative to what you want. If you want to drive a Camry, then that all good too.
This is my 8th slammed car and 4th country and I've gotten by just fine so far in all of them.
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
Passenger side long tubes touches sometimes on very high humps but nothing detrimental. Rocker Rails by A&A take all the abuse - aluminum rails that are bolted to the frame. Everything rubs on that and not on my bodywork or frame.
It's all relative to what you want. If you want to drive a Camry, then that all good too.
This is my 8th slammed car and 4th country and I've gotten by just fine so far in all of them.
It's all relative to what you want. If you want to drive a Camry, then that all good too.
This is my 8th slammed car and 4th country and I've gotten by just fine so far in all of them.
My car:
Last edited by Rhode Warrior; Feb 11, 2006 at 03:45 PM.
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From: Rhode Island
Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
Passenger side long tubes touches sometimes on very high humps but nothing detrimental. Rocker Rails by A&A take all the abuse - aluminum rails that are bolted to the frame. Everything rubs on that and not on my bodywork or frame.
It's all relative to what you want. If you want to drive a Camry, then that all good too.
This is my 8th slammed car and 4th country and I've gotten by just fine so far in all of them.
It's all relative to what you want. If you want to drive a Camry, then that all good too.
This is my 8th slammed car and 4th country and I've gotten by just fine so far in all of them.
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
Didn't you tear off a section of your wheel well recently?
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From: Rhode Island
Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
No sway bars plus soft rear springs on the Cross Bronx Expressway. DRM has since sent me 650in/lb springs as replacements and the GMR T1 are installed. No more bounce and suspension travel is less than an 2 inches now.