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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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is there a speed limiter on the 2002 zo6 corvette.? i can only top out at 153mph approaching 5800rpm in 5th gear, when i dumped 6th gear the car started to slow down. . why? please help. i already used the diablo programmer on the car and the car has all the bolt on's in place.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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is there a speed limiter on the 2002 zo6 corvette.? i can only top out at 153mph approaching 5800rpm in 5th gear, when i dumped 6th gear the car started to slow down. . why? please help. i already used the diablo programmer on the car and the car has all the bolt on's in place.
It may has something to do with your gearing, my 1999 Z28 with the M6 topped out at the same speed and it had a lot to do with my drag limits and gearing. You could trade it in for a coupe!
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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The only limiter I know of built into the car is the rev limiter. If you are stock-horse power falls off over 6000rpms and sixth gear is to tall for a stock motor to pull. You can definitly tell when you hit the rev limiter.
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I would think with the stock 3.42's you should be able to pull beyond 153. If you had higher gears, that would reduce your ability to reach a higher top speed, like 3.90's or 4.10's. One way you can tell is when you put the car in 4th gear and hit 70mph - how many rpm's are you turning? If you're turning 4100 rpm - then you have 4.10's. If you are turning 3900 rpm, then you have a 3.90......I think you get the point.

I assume that this top speed run was performed on a closed course, right?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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any chance you've got different gears, a Z should be able to go up around 175-180 with enough room
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
I would think with the stock 3.42's you should be able to pull beyond 153. If you had higher gears, that would reduce your ability to reach a higher top speed, like 3.90's or 4.10's. One way you can tell is when you put the car in 4th gear and hit 70mph - how many rpm's are you turning? If you're turning 4100 rpm - then you have 4.10's. If you are turning 3900 rpm, then you have a 3.90......I think you get the point.

I assume that this top speed run was performed on a closed course, right?
pretty cool..... i didn't know you could tell like that
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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The only speed limiter in my car is the model W.I.F.E. that sometimes installs itself in the passenger seat!
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MN12 with 3.42s

1000 1500 2000 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000 5500 6000 6300 6500
1st 8 12 16 19 23 27 31 35 39 43 47 49 51
2nd 11 17 22 28 34 39 45 50 56 61 67 70 73
3rd 16 24 32 40 49 57 65 73 81 89 97 102 105
4th 23 35 46 58 69 81 93 104 116 127 139 146 150
5th 28 41 55 69 83 96 110 124 138 152 165
6th 41 62 83 103 124 145 165


Wind resistance ( head wind even a small head wind) will slow the car down.

6th gear is a highway cruzing gear and not for top speed.

What size tires are on the back. If your tires are smaller diamerter then stock your speeds will be less.
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Originally Posted by jman1
pretty cool..... i didn't know you could tell like that
Actually - here's a write-up from one of our most articulate and technical members......

http://mikemercury.home.att.net/ratio.htm

And it looks like I mistakenly stated 70mph - it should be 75mph. The key is 3rd with an A4 or 4th with an MN6 or MN12. The idea is to be in the gear that is the one to one ratio.

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Originally Posted by carcrazzy
is there a speed limiter on the 2002 zo6 corvette.? i can only top out at 153mph approaching 5800rpm in 5th gear, when i dumped 6th gear the car started to slow down. . why? please help. i already used the diablo programmer on the car and the car has all the bolt on's in place.
Technically there is a register in the on board computer that is a top speed limiter. It is set above the stock speed you are capable of in a Z06 due to aero drag. If memory serves it is around 185 +/- 2. Of course I am sure someone will say I am 100% wrong, so take it with a grain of salt until someone can pull up the chart of programmable registers.
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A Z06 with stock gearing should be able to do better than 153 in 5th. There is no speed limiter, just limited by drag and power.
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153mph approaching 5800RPM in 5th gear is correct with stock gearing and tires. 6000RPM S/B 162mph and 170 coming at redline, 6300RPM.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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I'm more curious as to where you found a place to get up to 153 mph.
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Try laying off the Krispy Kreme's to add a few MPH.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
MN12 with 3.42s

1000 1500 2000 2500 3000 3500 4000 4500 5000 5500 6000 6300 6500
1st 8 12 16 19 23 27 31 35 39 43 47 49 51
2nd 11 17 22 28 34 39 45 50 56 61 67 70 73
3rd 16 24 32 40 49 57 65 73 81 89 97 102 105
4th 23 35 46 58 69 81 93 104 116 127 139 146 150
5th 28 41 55 69 83 96 110 124 138 152 165
6th 41 62 83 103 124 145 165


Wind resistance ( head wind even a small head wind) will slow the car down.

6th gear is a highway cruzing gear and not for top speed.

What size tires are on the back. If your tires are smaller diamerter then stock your speeds will be less.
Very nice post.
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No limiters to my knowledge. Huh... I need to go out and do a top speed run again, now that my body work is done. I know that 130-135 felt more "firm" and "grounded" now then it did before. I wonder if I get any drag after those speeds. I need to change the tow before I atempt a 160+ run any time soon. I was able to top out 3 178MPH runs a few years ago. This was on a runway... I ran out of track before speed.


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The rpm's at 60mph are at 1500rpm's in 6th gear. as far as were i was able to acheive these speeds there is a great long straight road near jones beach in ny. btw, i forgot to mention i didnt have the 2 front o2 sensors hooked up and i had a 1 bad o2 sim. could this have been the problem? i wil try is again this weekend if the weather permits. i now have all the sensors hooked up and replaced the bad o2 sim. also for some reason with the diablo scanner hooked up the mv at the leaft rear sensor stays at aboubt 440 to 455 not much change in variables like the others. so strange. even at 153mph. it is quite scary. 1 mistake and im toast. and im sure there will be no more replys from me. i will check the gear ratio to be certain. its funny how fast you come up on cars doing 70mph doing over 150mph. someone metioned to me that it might be the clutch slipping, im doubtful because the car burns rubber to third gear. the tires are stock height. any thoughts?
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I did 178 mph in my 97 and I am sure that either a fuel cutoff or speed limiter kicked in. The car would of went faster. By the way it was night time, I had those head lights up that are suppose to be a problem for aerodynamics.
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Originally Posted by Skull One
Technically there is a register in the on board computer that is a top speed limiter. It is set above the stock speed you are capable of in a Z06 due to aero drag. If memory serves it is around 185 +/- 2. Of course I am sure someone will say I am 100% wrong, so take it with a grain of salt until someone can pull up the chart of programmable registers.
The technical speed limit is 255 (FF in hexidecimal notation) which is encoded in the PCM.

Other than that, there is no speed limiter in the C5 Corvette.
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
The technical speed limit is 255 (FF in hexidecimal notation) which is encoded in the PCM.

Other than that, there is no speed limiter in the C5 Corvette.

Interesting. I have heard B7 thru BB being in that slot. Next time I am at 21st Century Muscle Cars I will ask Andy what the default is for my Coupe.
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