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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Does a California C5 contain any more emissions equipment than another C5? Does a California car have a lower HP rating than another states car? I'm specifically referring to a 2002 6 speed standard non Z06 engine.

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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The C5 is built for worst case standards I think.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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What's worst case standards?
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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I believe C-5 Corvettes are 50 state cars. I think they all have the same engine ratings, smog equipment, etc. Any specs you find published should be the same for any state. Check with a dealer to be sure. I think most all cars are 50 state legal now days.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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CALIFORNIA STANDARDS Out here your car can pass all the actual emission tests, and still fail what they call the visual test. Go figure, I allways thought the stuff that came out of the tailpipe is what mattered. So if a car is legal in California, you can bet it will be legal anywhere in the universe.




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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Someone will come in and give the exact info here, but I do remember that for at least the first couple years, the California cars had a different emmissions system and (5?) less horsepower. Then somewhere around 99-00 they changed to a solid 50 state design that gave everyone the same HP (350) as the other 49 states had before.
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That's great but I need to make sure that being from Pennsylvania I do not want any additional smog equipment on my car especially if I do not need it. The C2 AIR and California C3 cars are looked down upon back here.

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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If you're moving to Kaaaalifornya from Pa. you have bigger problems than Vette inspections. Like where you are going to get the $2,000,000 for that 1200 sq.ft. house you have to buy.
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Originally Posted by Likesvettes
If you're moving to Kaaaalifornya from Pa. you have bigger problems than Vette inspections. Like where you are going to get the $2,000,000 for that 1200 sq.ft. house you have to buy.

Hmmmm, I took it to mean that he was thinking of buying a California car and didn't want a weaker can than if he bought from someone else. Let's see who is right.
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I, too, remember California C5s getting pre-cats in addition while others only had the main catalytic converters.

Somebody correct me on this.
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i have a california car. 04 vert. there is no difference in this car. it's just "certified" to cali emmissions standards. they are all the same now. dee gee and mikey are correct!
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i have a california car. 04 vert. there is no difference in this car. it's just "certified" to cali emmissions standards. they are all the same now. dee gee and mikey are correct!
Yes, and, BTW, all vettes (C5's) are made 50 state smog legal compliant. I purchased my vettes all out of state, and, had no problem having them pass Cali's usually more scrutinous "visual inspection".
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Originally Posted by edensknight
Yes, and, BTW, all vettes (C5's) are made 50 state smog legal compliant. I purchased my vettes all out of state, and, had no problem having them pass Cali's usually more scrutinous "visual inspection".
The first few years, the C5's were 49 state legal with a slightly lower HP on the California cars.
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I have a correction to my post yesterday. I found my newer copy of the Corvette Black Book. It DOES show a California Emmissions (YF5) option through 2000 model year,( EXCEPT 1996 ?). After that, 2001 up, no YF5 in the book. I do know that a USED Corvette can be brought into California, (I think 6000 miles minimum), if it met the 49 state requirements, and had all the stock smog equipment as installed. The book also says all vettes had the same HP (1997-2000 345, 2001 up 350).
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Originally Posted by Dave Kitch
That's great but I need to make sure that being from Pennsylvania I do not want any additional smog equipment on my car especially if I do not need it. The C2 AIR and California C3 cars are looked down upon back here.

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I moved from Pa. to Calif a few years back. Pa. was just starting emmissions testing. What I found out is that Pa. emission specs were the exact same as Ca. (as far as what comes out of the tail pipe. Calif. is a bit more **** about the visual.) There is not "special" build Corvette (C5s) to meet Calif testing.

A year or so ago the Republik of Kalifornie got a little stricter in how they test and do it on a mini dyno. The visual is pretty much left up to inspector subjectivity. The rules are sort of vague in these areas. such as for headers. You should have C.A.R.B stickers (Calif Air XX). from the manufacturer. The rule also states that the emmissions equiptment must be operative. You can't remove your A.I.R system for example. If your headers have the proper attachments and the system works properly than by law you are ok. But it is left up to the inspector to determine that.

For example I have LG long tubes with Random Tech cats. I have the paperwork for the cats and the AIR system is set up and works properly. My inspector will pass me, but that is not saying that another won't. But then my car is legal by their rules.

Oh yes, they are going to state run stations here also. The place I go is a state run station.

The only gripe I have is that they run the dyno test and I have a 2:73 rear end. On their low speed dyno they let it shift up to 4th and at that low a speed (around 30MPH) they lug the crap out of it. It still passes but not as good as if it were actually going down the road.

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Originally Posted by Mike McCoy
I have a correction to my post yesterday. I found my newer copy of the Corvette Black Book. It DOES show a California Emmissions (YF5) option through 2000 model year,( EXCEPT 1996 ?). After that, 2001 up, no YF5 in the book. I do know that a USED Corvette can be brought into California, (I think 6000 miles minimum), if it met the 49 state requirements, and had all the stock smog equipment as installed. The book also says all vettes had the same HP (1997-2000 345, 2001 up 350).
The YF5 option is a sticker saying the car meets Calif. Specs. nothing more nothing less. The bummer is the Peoples Republik of Kalifornie charges you for not having it if you bring your car in from out of state. I think you can deduct it on your Income Tax.
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Originally Posted by BlueDragon
The YF5 option is a sticker saying the car meets Calif. Specs. nothing more nothing less. The bummer is the Peoples Republik of Kalifornie charges you for not having it if you bring your car in from out of state. I think you can deduct it on your Income Tax.
I just brought a 49 state car into CA. No problems. Smog test was done to federal standards.

There is no fee. Car must be used with at least 7500 miles on it in order to bring it into the state if it does not meet CA smog requirements.

The only expense was the standard sales tax and registration expense.

Here's the details: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...cts/ffvr29.htm
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I just brought a 49 state car into CA. No problems. Smog test was done to federal standards.

There is no fee. Car must be used with at least 7500 miles on it in order to bring it into the state if it does not meet CA smog requirements.

The only expense was the standard sales tax and registration expense.

Here's the details: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures...cts/ffvr29.htm

Well I'll be dogged! A few years back, they charged me extra. I brought two cars into the state from P.A. and they said because I did not have the right sticker I had to pay more for the registration. They actually went out and looked for the sticker. They must have changed that.
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Originally Posted by jimmie jam
i have a california car. 04 vert. there is no difference in this car. it's just "certified" to cali emmissions standards. they are all the same now. dee gee and mikey are correct!
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