If one were to disconnect the "BlackBox" that has generated so much controversy lately with the ACLU etc.. would any other systems be affected?

 

what is this black box of which you speak?

 

I did not think every car had one

 

Here we go again.

 

The "black Box" records data, including speed, airbag deployment info and other stuff that iI cannot recall at the moment. It is located behind the ashtray area. I saw mine when I did a Hurst shifter install. The reason for this post was not to beat a dead horse- [apparently not- as as a search turned up nothing under "black box" here on the forum-]
But to seek technical info for a friend who asked me about it. I told him that I would post the question where I thought I would get straightforward information about it. "here we go again"?? WTF?

 

As I recall the black box is also tied into the airbag system so you may have some issues with codes and such as a result. Additionally, in the event of an accident that would prompt a review of the data it would cause some issues with the insurance carrier at a minimum.

Paul

 

 

All of the related issues to messing with the "black box" are listed in Orwell's book:1984

 

Now THAT'S funny....I don't care who you are.

THANKS !!!

 

This topic has been discussed to death just in the last year. It comes up about once every nine months.


Brief "non-technical" breakdown of the so called "Black Box" and what it is.

1) It is part of the air bag deployment system.

2) It existence is for data analysis of a crash to help develope better airbag deployment systems. Two stage air bags came about because of this.

3) It captures the last 5 seconds of data needed for said analysis.

4) All "Black Boxes" record throttle, brake, speed, G-force at impact and sensor that set off deployment. Some record more info.

5) GM has publicly stated that you can't disable the "Black Box" and still have the air bags deploy.

The system has been around since the late 90s but didn't become public knowledge till a few years ago. The data has been used in court cases to both convict and exonerate drivers (one example http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07...ack_box_nails/).

The kidiots on the Net is where the real gripping about this began and wide spread mis-information is generated. But they did realize one true fact: their cars could convict them in a street racing accident and they didn't like it. Shortly there after the regular idiots from the privacy protection advocates chimed in.

Anyone that thinks this data shouldn't be used against them or for them in the accident reconstruction phase of a trial, should not be issued a driver license. Driving is a not a right. It is a privilege. And I have no intention of debating this opinion, so don't bother flaming me.

 

The black box is not in 1998 year C5s. I have a 1998 !

 

I was hoping for some Friday "flaming"...

 

Wow you got a rare car, better get it to Barett Jackson
Every 98 including mine should have one. That came from BG engineers at the C5 registry dinner at Carlisle. Thats when I found out about it.

 

Why is it lately that those that have information about a subject have to be so F&*/>%g condescending to those that don't. Maybe the original poster hasn't seen this before. And the search function is hit or miss.

If you don't like the subject of a thread, don't post in it. If you're not ready to debate this why, oh why did you post in the first place.

 

I can take a guess at this. For me it's because the people that are wrong are so condescending with their opinions, and it gets annoying to read these so-called 'expert' statements that you know are absolutely wrong.

Because these aren't truly debates. No one is going to change anyone's mind, nor are you going to get anyone to say "you may have a point there" (because that would be like admitting you're not a man).

 

 

You have one very good point and an interesting observation. I will address both.

1) My post wasn't condescending. It was factual and to the point. And when I wrote it, I didn't have the time or luxury of making it all flowery so I wouldn't offend anyone.

2) The opinion is what I won't debate. The facts I will be more than happy to debate all day should someone post something that proves my facts wrong.

 

Last time I checked he was right driving is a privilege not a right

 

also you must remember that half the people on this forum don't have corvettes anyway.

 

Believe me, your car has a Black Box..EDR (Event Data Recorder) so does the 97...It isnt black though and it measures and records

Vehicle speed (five seconds before impact)
Engine speed (five seconds before impact)
Brake status (five seconds before impact)
Throttle position (five seconds before impact)
State of driver's seat belt switch (On/Off)
Passenger's airbag (On/Off) If equipt with shut off
IR Warning Lamp status (On/Off)
Time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment
Ignition cycle count at event time
Ignition cycle count at investigation
Maximum velocity for near-deployment event
Velocity vs. time for frontal airbag deployment event
Time from vehicle impact to time of maximum velocity
Time between near-deploy and deploy event (if within five seconds)