Pull key & wait 10 seconds??????
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Pull key & wait 10 seconds??????
Pull key & wait 10 seconds?????? I had the CLB installed on my 99 MN6 2 years ago, and i am getting stuck w/ this now????? any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
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I had this happen to me as well.
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
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Originally Posted by Dave1998
I had this happen to me as well.
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
Same thing happened to me and it WAS the battery.
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Hope it is just a battery. A check can confirm. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Dave1998
I had this happen to me as well.
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
Your battery may be dying. I would pull it out and take it somewhere for a free load test.
If your battery is not strong, you will see this as the computer is not getting enough volts.
Trust me on this. Battery often the cause
Bravo!
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Originally Posted by mojo1
For me it was a fried BSM , but that was before the bypass , it was covered and not cheap . Good luck ,,,,,
or was it your BCM?
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Originally Posted by C5 4 BA
Thanks for the advice, I had a test done on the battery and it was time to replace......Once again I can count on the Corvette Forum to call the right diagnoses! Bravo!
Bravo!Ok....So I thought i was in the clear, no pull key messages all day yesterday with the new DieHard....Today I can't get it outta the driveway without the pull key message coming on disabling the ignition
Now what? do i need to reset the code? does that mean a trip to my favorite
"Chevy Dealer"....
As always. Thanks in advance....
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Q I still get the "Pull Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message and "Service Steering Column Lock" message? What do I do now?
A1 Sometimes the latching relay in the CLB can get out of sync sending the wrong status to your BCM. This has happened to a few folks even with the CLB installed. The CLB latching relay gets out of sync with the BCM possibly due to shock, vibration or relay contact bounce during switching which confused the BCM. The CLB does not physically know which state it should be in; it only switches from one state to the other when it receives a signal from the BCM. The BCM can be reset by pulling Fuse 23 and waiting 10 seconds.
A2 Check to make sure Fuse 25 in passenger footwell is good.
A3 Verify the black wire to your ECL or CLB is grounded (zero ohms resistance).
A5 Verify the green wire to the ECL or CLB is shorted to ground while in the "UNLOCKED" position and +12Vdc while in the "LOCKED" position.
A6 If you get the "Pull Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message but no "Service Column Lock" message, it could be your security system and related to your key pellet.
A1 Sometimes the latching relay in the CLB can get out of sync sending the wrong status to your BCM. This has happened to a few folks even with the CLB installed. The CLB latching relay gets out of sync with the BCM possibly due to shock, vibration or relay contact bounce during switching which confused the BCM. The CLB does not physically know which state it should be in; it only switches from one state to the other when it receives a signal from the BCM. The BCM can be reset by pulling Fuse 23 and waiting 10 seconds.
A2 Check to make sure Fuse 25 in passenger footwell is good.
A3 Verify the black wire to your ECL or CLB is grounded (zero ohms resistance).
A5 Verify the green wire to the ECL or CLB is shorted to ground while in the "UNLOCKED" position and +12Vdc while in the "LOCKED" position.
A6 If you get the "Pull Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message but no "Service Column Lock" message, it could be your security system and related to your key pellet.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Please understand that the pull key message is not necessarily related in any way to the Column lock issue. Have you tried cleaning your key. Have you tried your spare key. Try the fuse reset listed above and clean you pellet on your key and see if that takes care of the warning.
Paul
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Originally Posted by talon90
The previous information can be found in the Column Lock FAQ Sticky Thread at the top of C5 Tech. Really worth the read.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Please understand that the pull key message is not necessarily related in any way to the Column lock issue. Have you tried cleaning your key. Have you tried your spare key. Try the fuse reset listed above and clean you pellet on your key and see if that takes care of the warning.
Paul
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Please understand that the pull key message is not necessarily related in any way to the Column lock issue. Have you tried cleaning your key. Have you tried your spare key. Try the fuse reset listed above and clean you pellet on your key and see if that takes care of the warning.
Paul
I will try all of the above and are printing the thread link you gave me....Thank YOU so much
I will give an update.....Happy trails...
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HELP!! Am I getting ripped off by my chevrolet dealer? 
They called with the news its my "Thelf Column lock relay" that is bad and its over 313.00 in parts and labor..... Thanks for everyones help.....
They called with the news its my "Thelf Column lock relay" that is bad and its over 313.00 in parts and labor..... Thanks for everyones help.....
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Originally Posted by WWK888
Tell them that the car should be covered under the new recall that came out in Feb, they are trying to rip you off.
WHAT NEW RECALL?????????
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MODELS:
1997-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION
1997-2000 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
2001-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION – EUROPEAN EXPORT
VEHICLES ONLY
DESCRIPTION:
PRODUCT SAFETY #04006C
DATED: FEBRUARY 8, 2006
IMPORTANT:
THIS BULLETIN CANCELS AND REPLACES BULLETIN 04006B, ISSUED NOVEMBER 2004. THE SERVICE PROCEDURE FOR U.S. VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN REVISED. PLEASE REVIEW THIS NEW INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY.
ALL COPIES OF BULLETIN 04006B SHOULD BE DESTROYED.
General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 1997-2004 model year Chevrolet Corvette vehicles. When you remove the ignition key, the electronic column lock (ECL) system prevents turning of the steering wheel. When the vehicle is started, it unlocks the steering. Two conditions can prevent steering while the vehicle is moving:
1. The vehicle is designed so that if the column fails to unlock when the vehicle is started, the fuel supply will be shut off if the driver tries to move the vehicle. If voltage at the powertrain control module is low or interrupted, however, the fuel shut off may not occur and the vehicle can be accelerated while the steering is locked.
2. During quick cranks, the ECL lock pin may not withdraw fully and, in vehicles where there is abnormally low clearance to the lock plate, there may be contact between the pin and lock plate. This can cause a noise or ratcheting when the steering wheel is turned or, if there is insufficient clearance, the steering wheel cannot be turned.
If one of these conditions occurs, a crash could occur without warning.
CORRECTION:
Dealers are to remove the column lock plate on U.S. and Canadian vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and U.S. vehicles equipped with a manual transmission. After the service correction, the steering column will no longer lock when the key is removed.
On Canadian and export vehicles equipped with a manual transmission, and export vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission, Dealers are to 1) reprogram the PCM, and 2) verify there is adequate lock plate clearance and, if necessary, replace the lock plate. After the service correction, the steering column will continue to lock when the key is removed.
Refer to the Product Safety Bulletin #04006C for further information.
EFFECTIVE DATE:
Owner mailing is scheduled to begin February 15, 2006.
GENERAL INFORMATION:
Parts required to complete this recall are to be obtained from General Motors Service Parts Operations (GMSPO). Please refer to your "involved vehicles listing" before ordering parts. Normal orders should be placed on a DRO – Daily Replenishment Order. In an emergency situation, parts should be ordered on a CSO – Customer Special Order.
The Parts list follows:
Part Number Description Quantity/Vehicle
89023816 Harness Kit, Strg Whl Theft Dtrnt Lk Shorting (US manuals and all automatics except export vehicles) 1
88952428 Wire Kit, Strg Whl Theft Dtrnt Lk (1998-2000 Canadian and export manuals & export automatics) 1 (If Req'd)
26056108 Nut, Strg Whl 1 (If Req'd)
26094767 Plate, Strg Shf Lk (Canadian manuals) 1 (If Req'd)
88964588 Plate, Strg Shf Lk (Export vehicles) 1 (If Req'd)
05694191 Ring, Strg Shf Lk Plt Ret 1 (If
1997-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION
1997-2000 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
2001-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION – EUROPEAN EXPORT
VEHICLES ONLY
DESCRIPTION:
PRODUCT SAFETY #04006C
DATED: FEBRUARY 8, 2006
IMPORTANT:
THIS BULLETIN CANCELS AND REPLACES BULLETIN 04006B, ISSUED NOVEMBER 2004. THE SERVICE PROCEDURE FOR U.S. VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN REVISED. PLEASE REVIEW THIS NEW INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY.
ALL COPIES OF BULLETIN 04006B SHOULD BE DESTROYED.
General Motors has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 1997-2004 model year Chevrolet Corvette vehicles. When you remove the ignition key, the electronic column lock (ECL) system prevents turning of the steering wheel. When the vehicle is started, it unlocks the steering. Two conditions can prevent steering while the vehicle is moving:
1. The vehicle is designed so that if the column fails to unlock when the vehicle is started, the fuel supply will be shut off if the driver tries to move the vehicle. If voltage at the powertrain control module is low or interrupted, however, the fuel shut off may not occur and the vehicle can be accelerated while the steering is locked.
2. During quick cranks, the ECL lock pin may not withdraw fully and, in vehicles where there is abnormally low clearance to the lock plate, there may be contact between the pin and lock plate. This can cause a noise or ratcheting when the steering wheel is turned or, if there is insufficient clearance, the steering wheel cannot be turned.
If one of these conditions occurs, a crash could occur without warning.
CORRECTION:
Dealers are to remove the column lock plate on U.S. and Canadian vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission and U.S. vehicles equipped with a manual transmission. After the service correction, the steering column will no longer lock when the key is removed.
On Canadian and export vehicles equipped with a manual transmission, and export vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission, Dealers are to 1) reprogram the PCM, and 2) verify there is adequate lock plate clearance and, if necessary, replace the lock plate. After the service correction, the steering column will continue to lock when the key is removed.
Refer to the Product Safety Bulletin #04006C for further information.
EFFECTIVE DATE:
Owner mailing is scheduled to begin February 15, 2006.
GENERAL INFORMATION:
Parts required to complete this recall are to be obtained from General Motors Service Parts Operations (GMSPO). Please refer to your "involved vehicles listing" before ordering parts. Normal orders should be placed on a DRO – Daily Replenishment Order. In an emergency situation, parts should be ordered on a CSO – Customer Special Order.
The Parts list follows:
Part Number Description Quantity/Vehicle
89023816 Harness Kit, Strg Whl Theft Dtrnt Lk Shorting (US manuals and all automatics except export vehicles) 1
88952428 Wire Kit, Strg Whl Theft Dtrnt Lk (1998-2000 Canadian and export manuals & export automatics) 1 (If Req'd)
26056108 Nut, Strg Whl 1 (If Req'd)
26094767 Plate, Strg Shf Lk (Canadian manuals) 1 (If Req'd)
88964588 Plate, Strg Shf Lk (Export vehicles) 1 (If Req'd)
05694191 Ring, Strg Shf Lk Plt Ret 1 (If
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Originally Posted by C5 4 BA
WOW!!!! Thanks so much......I am going to read it to the bend over and smile man......unbelievable......I am very grateful for your quick reply....