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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Well I filled up at Diamond Shamrock before heading out to the DFW Poker Run today, and on the way home my gas gauge/HUD goes from showing a full tank to "Low Fuel" in the blink of an eye. I get to a gas station and check under the car; no leaks. Not wanting to run out of gas I put some in and proceed to drive home. It only took a few dollars, so I knew I still had gas in the tank. When I get home and immediately check the forum to what could be happening. After a search I found out that the gas I put in this morning (93 octane) probably had too much sulfur in it and is causing the sensor to malfunction. At first I was all worried that I was going to have to get it into the stealership, but thanks to the forum I will run a bottle of Techron fuel system cleaner or two through it and hope that works. I have never had a bad tank of gas before (and that location is the main gas station that I fill up at). I don't think I will be going there anymore. Be careful, even when filling it with premium 93 octane.
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Don't expect the problem to clear up and allow you to run w/o techron either. Every time I try to use another gas my gauge does that little trick. I now use strictly Chevron unless there is nothing else available. If you don't have Chevron in your area I'd make a habit of running another top tier gas and adding techron every oil change.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Wheeew...I've had that all morning...

Ahheemm...I try to use Mobil premium all the time in my 04 and I've never had a problem. Occasionally I throw in a bottle of Techron fuel system cleaner or Sea Foam in the tank just to keep thinks clean. I do this on my other vehicles as well....

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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I've been using Shell (mostly) and BP (once and a while) in my '98 for the last 8 years. Fortunately, I've never had one problem w/ inaccurate fuel readings.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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So far so good, I try to use premium from top tier gas stations; so far that has worked.

However, as a side-note, with the spike in gas prices, it seems like a number of drivers are going down a grade to save money. This leaves fewer premium customers which may result in higher premium prices and old gas??
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Just use Chevron and now, after the merger, Texaco. Both have Techron as an additive. I use them whenever I can and haven't had a gas gauge problem.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Just use Chevron and now, after the merger, Texaco. Both have Techron as an additive. I use them whenever I can and haven't had a gas gauge problem.
I HATE TO BE THE BAD NEWS HERE, BUT HERE IT GOES.I DRIVE FOR A LIVING AND TO LET YOU KNOW.ALL GAS INCLUDED ALL FLUIDS COME DOWN THE SAME PIPE LINE. AND I DUE MEAN ALL TRANS JET AND SO ON. A LOT TIME YOU GET A MIX NOT TO SAY ITS NOT 89 OR 93, BUT TRUST ME SOME TIMES IT HAS A LITTLE MORE THAT ITS SO CALLED GAS. AND FYI THE TRUCKS THAT DELIVER IT.WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY HAD IN THE TANKS BEFORE THEY DROP THERE FIRST LOAD.
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MEATHEAD - are you saying that although we think that we're pumping 93 octane at the gas station we may be pumping a mix of octanes?
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Originally Posted by MEATHEAD
I HATE TO BE THE BAD NEWS HERE, BUT HERE IT GOES.I DRIVE FOR A LIVING AND TO LET YOU KNOW.ALL GAS INCLUDED ALL FLUIDS COME DOWN THE SAME PIPE LINE. AND I DUE MEAN ALL TRANS JET AND SO ON. A LOT TIME YOU GET A MIX NOT TO SAY ITS NOT 89 OR 93, BUT TRUST ME SOME TIMES IT HAS A LITTLE MORE THAT ITS SO CALLED GAS. AND FYI THE TRUCKS THAT DELIVER IT.WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY HAD IN THE TANKS BEFORE THEY DROP THERE FIRST LOAD.


In addition to being hard for many to read, typing in all caps is often considered as yelling on the Forum.

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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MEATHEAD
I HATE TO BE THE BAD NEWS HERE, BUT HERE IT GOES.I DRIVE FOR A LIVING AND TO LET YOU KNOW.ALL GAS INCLUDED ALL FLUIDS COME DOWN THE SAME PIPE LINE. AND I DUE MEAN ALL TRANS JET AND SO ON. A LOT TIME YOU GET A MIX NOT TO SAY ITS NOT 89 OR 93, BUT TRUST ME SOME TIMES IT HAS A LITTLE MORE THAT ITS SO CALLED GAS. AND FYI THE TRUCKS THAT DELIVER IT.WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY HAD IN THE TANKS BEFORE THEY DROP THERE FIRST LOAD.
It's not polite to yell!!!

Secondly, each company adds their own additives at the tank farm. In Chevron's case they add techron after it's received at the tank farm. Each company delivers their own gas, so anything that goes into the Chevron truck has techron added. I suppose it's possible you get a slightly lesser octane if the truck hauled 87 octane the load before but I personally believe the dilution would be minimal.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Well I filled up at Diamond Shamrock before heading out to the DFW Poker Run today, and on the way home my gas gauge/HUD goes from showing a full tank to "Low Fuel" in the blink of an eye. I get to a gas station and check under the car; no leaks. Not wanting to run out of gas I put some in and proceed to drive home. It only took a few dollars, so I knew I still had gas in the tank. When I get home and immediately check the forum to what could be happening. After a search I found out that the gas I put in this morning (93 octane) probably had too much sulfur in it and is causing the sensor to malfunction. At first I was all worried that I was going to have to get it into the stealership, but thanks to the forum I will run a bottle of Techron fuel system cleaner or two through it and hope that works. I have never had a bad tank of gas before (and that location is the main gas station that I fill up at). I don't think I will be going there anymore. Be careful, even when filling it with premium 93 octane.
I had the same thing happen to me a couple of weeks ago. I had driven from NJ to CO where I stayed for a couple days and then headed from Denver to ABQ, NM (I'm not even attempting the spelling) on route 25. I was maybe a half hour north of Santa Fe and I knew I had around half a tank and all of the sudden the DIC is giving me a low fuel warning which really scared the hell out of me. How can I be out of gas? Is the sensor broke? Is there a leak? Am I about to be stranded in the middle of nowhere? It just so happened the next gas station I found was a Chevron. I have read good things about Chevron here but I don't use it at home (NJ) becuase the nearest station is in MD. Anyway it only took 11 gallons to fill and the gauge corrected itself right away. Two weeks later I haven't had any problems.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Cheveron. Everytime. Costs a little more, but I've never had problems with a tank of gas from them. Those who claim it all comes from the same place are just uninformed. Stick with a tier one supplier and you'll have fewer problems.



BTW, the black wheels look great!
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Sea FOAM works great too! I was told to try it in my full tank of gas and it worked really well. I love the stuff and recommend it, after you burn the bad poop out!
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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I just had same problem. Never use anything but Conoco or Phillips 66 gas gauge went nuts after filling up. Techron didn't help and dealer replaced right tank sensor.

I'm under warranty. Check your codes.
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EricR-TX
Well I filled up at Diamond Shamrock ... After a search I found out that the gas I put in this morning (93 octane) probably had too much sulfur in it ... I have never had a bad tank of gas before ... I don't think I will be going there anymore.
Just so ya know it wasn't the one fill up from this one station this one time that made your gauge go bonkers. It is sulfur effects over time that effected your fuel sensor. Just happened to start acting up after you filled up at Shamrock.

Techron is the answer. It may take a couple bottles, but it will help.

Also if it happens while you are driving you can get into the DIC and reset the code (cause the fuel sensor throws a code, I don't remember what the actual code is though). Reset the code and the gauge will start working.
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The real bad news is that if your sending unit is acting up you probably WILL be replacing it in the near future. The fuel quality debate notwithstanding, the C5's are notorious for this issue. Mine did it at about 30K. Got better, acted up, got better, acted up, got better, QUIT... I replaced the comlpete sending unit. The bill was about $900 including parts and a lot of labor.
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Does sound like you got some bad gas. Hope the Techron sets things back to normal for your car.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Code for right tank was 2068. There was a service bullit about gas gauge on C5's.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Bad gas....You think you got some bad gas. I stopped by a roadside boiled peanut stand this weekend and.......
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