"Pull key & wait 10 seconds" with CLB installed
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Racer
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From: Raleigh NC
Thanks to everybody for their input . It's only happened twice in 6 months, and is never repeatable, so I'm not worried. I'll give the key a cleaning anyway, it sounds like this message is related to the security system as opposed to the CLB
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Racer
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From: Raleigh NC
Originally Posted by jdaniel2509
So even though I've had the recalls done, if I buy a CLB, when the "pull key and wait 10 seconds" comes on you're saying my car will still drive and not cut off???
I had the first recall done, which only re-programmed the computer to cut off the fuel if this happens. After reading EVERY message here on the CL nonsense, I bought & installed a CLB.
Safety Car
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From: Sarver Pennsylvania
Originally Posted by jdaniel2509
I've never seen mention of a class action. Why is that? Mine has been back 7 times, it's there now and they still act like mine is an isolated incident. I just found this forum yesterday. I had no idea the problem was this rampant.
JD,
You ARE in the best place to find out about all of the crazy quirks about the C5. The dreaded "Column Lock" is probably #1 on the hit parade.
Do some searches and you'll learn tons.
Save yourself some time and buy a CLB (column lock bypass)!
Good luck - and welcome to a great spot!
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From: Supporting the Corvette Community at Abel Chevrolet in Rio Vista, CA 707-374-6317 Ext.123
St. Jude Donor '08
Clb Is Not As Good As We Think???
I THOUGHT THAT WITH THE CLB THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN
. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FOR SURE FIX. LOOKS LIKE THE CLB WILL START BITING PEOPLE IN THE AZZ AS WELL. ALL THE FOLKS WHO JUMP PEOPLES **** OVER ACTUALLY GETTING THE RECALL DONE PROBABLY FEEL A LITTLE STUPID NOW.
. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FOR SURE FIX. LOOKS LIKE THE CLB WILL START BITING PEOPLE IN THE AZZ AS WELL. ALL THE FOLKS WHO JUMP PEOPLES **** OVER ACTUALLY GETTING THE RECALL DONE PROBABLY FEEL A LITTLE STUPID NOW.
Burning Brakes
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From: West Hollywood California ! Now Miami, Florida
ttt
i have mentioned the class action lawsuit !! . please direct your attention to my trip through hell with this issue . entitled "Need all Opinions" it should hopefully be in the C5 general area. !!!
God What a nightmare.... I had a pending reimbursement claim with GM and i still have yet to hear back from them.. i had to spend well over$400.00 fixing this . FIIIIIIIIIIIIING ... problem.
so .. if someone does what to start a lawsuit .. put me in the class ! .
peace !
God What a nightmare.... I had a pending reimbursement claim with GM and i still have yet to hear back from them.. i had to spend well over$400.00 fixing this . FIIIIIIIIIIIIING ... problem.
so .. if someone does what to start a lawsuit .. put me in the class ! .
peace !
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From: Whippany NJ
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Originally Posted by roscoe118
It could be your battery. Is it getting old? Is there corrosion on the terminals?
Big chance the battery is out the door. if your certain the battery is good, reset the BCM by pulling fuse 23 in the fuse block located in the passenger foot well. The key must be in the on position first. Then plug it back in. take key out for 1 minute then turn it back on again.The CLB lost sync with the BCM so thats why you got that message. 95% its because of the battery. happened to me.
Dont worry, you wont get stranded.
Last edited by Ikester; Jun 15, 2006 at 07:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by barrynk
I installed the CLB several months ago. Yesterday (for the 2nd time) I received the dreaded "Pull key & wait 10 seconds" message. After doing so, I restarted the car & the message went away. I'm a little unnerved after seeing this message again. Has anyone else seen this behavior with the CLB installed ?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Paul
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From: Whippany NJ
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Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
I THOUGHT THAT WITH THE CLB THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN . IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FOR SURE FIX. LOOKS LIKE THE CLB WILL START BITING PEOPLE IN THE AZZ AS WELL. ALL THE FOLKS WHO JUMP PEOPLES **** OVER ACTUALLY GETTING THE RECALL DONE PROBABLY FEEL A LITTLE STUPID NOW.
. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FOR SURE FIX. LOOKS LIKE THE CLB WILL START BITING PEOPLE IN THE AZZ AS WELL. ALL THE FOLKS WHO JUMP PEOPLES **** OVER ACTUALLY GETTING THE RECALL DONE PROBABLY FEEL A LITTLE STUPID NOW.1. the column lock will not engage
2. the fuel will not cut off
Bottom line..the recall can still leave you stranded. Not the CLB.
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From: Supporting the Corvette Community at Abel Chevrolet in Rio Vista, CA 707-374-6317 Ext.123
St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by Ikester
You're incorrect, the CLB can lose sync with the BCM causing the code to come up. Its even stated in the instructions. But it will never leave you stranded because
1. the column lock will not engage
2. the fuel will not cut off
Bottom line..the recall can still leave you stranded. Not the CLB.
1. the column lock will not engage
2. the fuel will not cut off
Bottom line..the recall can still leave you stranded. Not the CLB.
Burning Brakes
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From: South Glastonbury CT
St. Jude Donor '06
I never had this message appear on my DIC until after having the CLB installed. Now, people are saying battery issue, key issue, ignition issue. I don't believe it. It has to be something with the software of the car. Perhaps, the key resistor may something to do with it, but I think its a software issue. It has to be something like that, there are too many people experiencing the same problems and in common is the CLB. THoughts?
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From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
My dealership has had to fix two seperate cars that had CLB's that DID fail and shut the fuel off just like the recall. They both came in on a flatbed and we had to do the recall on them to get them running again.
Last edited by WWK888; Jun 16, 2006 at 03:32 AM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Orland Park Illinois
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
I don't know what year your car is, but, some '97's and '98's were (still are) plagued w/ this problem. I had this problem and my car is a '98-A4. I finally removed the CLB and had the recall "fix" done to it a few years back. Not one problem since then. Good luck w/ your car.
Racer
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From: Newton, Wisconsin
I have an '02 that has had the first recall done about 2 years ago. I called COH to get a CLB and they told me that it would not work unless the car was reprogrammed back to original (fuel shut off issue) and the dealer won't do that. I have not had any problems, nor do I want to. Do I get the latest recall done and then add a CLB?
Melting Slicks
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From: queens Newyork
Originally Posted by Jake the Snake
I have an '02 that has had the first recall done about 2 years ago. I called COH to get a CLB and they told me that it would not work unless the car was reprogrammed back to original (fuel shut off issue) and the dealer won't do that. I have not had any problems, nor do I want to. Do I get the latest recall done and then add a CLB?
Instructor
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From: Peru IL
At Least
Originally Posted by ptdrummer54
...The Pull Key message indicates a security system failure, not a Column Lock condition, so your CLB seems to be working fine.
If you would have seen the doubly-dreaded "Service Column Lock" message with your CLB, then I'd be worried.Randy
