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I'm surprised that, with all the mod crazy people on this forum, that I've only seen one person with Red Devil titanium Rotors? Supposedly, the difference in stopping distance is really good and most importantly, they save like 33 pounds of unsprung weight. I'm just curious if anyone else has them and what their opinions are of them.
Alex, I looked @ these about 3 months ago. I ususally don't worry too much about cost but when I totaled up what I would want (the works)
it came to a little over $6,500. Car stops pretty good now and I don't track the car so I decided against them. I know you track your car so remember that Titanium doesn't dissapate heat worth a hoot so you would need heat shields for your car. JMHO!!!
I'm surprised that, with all the mod crazy people on this forum, that I've only seen one person with Red Devil titanium Rotors? Supposedly, the difference in stopping distance is really good and most importantly,
Yes they save weight, but it was a myth or 'paid' artical that stated they stopped in less distance.
There have been a few guys who tried them out and found they did not stopp well at all especially for the 3200 lbs corvette.
Titanium is not a good heat conductor. Heat is the by product of friction from the the change of Kinitic motion ( movement) to static ( stopped).
When I was woking for Xtreme Motorsports we installed 3 different sets of rotors on a customers car within about a years time. The reason that we changed so many times was due to stress cracking and warping. If it was me buy the Baer rotors and be done. The price and weight savings does not justify purchasing for a daily driver or weekend driving.
Thanks guys, I was just curious since I saw an article about them in a vette magazine and it dawned on me that if they were so good, how come I never see anyone here with a set. Makes sense now.
Like Busted Knuckle said, I do PDA road course events once or twice a year and that really puts a stress on the rotors/pads. That's why I've kind of been hesitant to get slotted/drilled rotors. The price was way out of my budget anyway but the weight savings seemed very appealing.
Yes they save weight, but it was a myth or 'paid' artical that stated they stopped in less distance.
There have been a few guys who tried them out and found they did not stopp well at all especially for the 3200 lbs corvette.
Titanium is not a good heat conductor. Heat is the by product of friction from the the change of Kinitic motion ( movement) to static ( stopped).
they might stop well once, but the real limiting factor in you brake distance is the tires (assuming the brakes are strong enough to lock up the wheel/activate the ABS) so I'm not sure this would help there either. I'm wondering about 15-20 min into a track session when all the heat is going into the brake calipers instead of the rotor.
...that and for 1K each they better....wait that's not exactly work safe
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they might stop well once, but the real limiting factor in you brake distance is the tires (assuming the brakes are strong enough to lock up the wheel/activate the ABS) so I'm not sure this would help there either. I'm wondering about 15-20 min into a track session when all the heat is going into the brake calipers instead of the rotor.
...that and for 1K each they better....wait that's not exactly work safe
I talked to the rep a couple of years ago at Carlisle and he was trying to tell me about the increased rotor life I would get. However, for the price of their rotors I can buy plenty of NAPA replacements and still be money ahead. There is really no evidence they will provide improved stopping power for 20 to 45 minutes at a time.
In Gm testing we found increased brake fade with titanium rotors. AS the number of close braking events occurred, the greater the stopping distance became. Heat dissipation was considered very poor. Internal stress under load was unacceptable.
But not titanium with ceramic coating. I have these brakes and they perform fantastic at the track with no fade; of course you need some spindles and good duct work to the rotor to get the heat out. I dont know if the cost is justified as a set of Stop Techs or Brembos will effectively do the same thing but the unsprung weight is noticeable.
Titanium is not a good heat conductor. Heat is the by product of friction from the the change of Kinitic motion ( movement) to static ( stopped).
It's the ceramic coating that dissipates heat quite well and the advantage of these brakes. The only downside is that you better make sure that the coating is not wearing off becasue when you do, you are right, the titanium will fry everything. I race with these and they are very very effective and have a helluva grip. Very easy to activate the ABS. Maybe the fraction of a second faster that it activates the ABS is where the lesser stopping distance comes from, although I suspect that it is not as drastic as they say. Although my car stops much better than a C6Z. Of course my car weighs 3000lbs.