Column Lock After Recall
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Column Lock After Recall
My 98 vette just locked up on me this morning. I got a message to have the column lock checked. The engine would start but as soon as I tried to move the car, the engine would shut off. I was trying to get it back in the garage. My concern is that I had the recall work done on the column lock over a year ago after getting the recall notice in the mail. Now the dealer is indicating that this could be a different problem than what was previously fixed (translation: I may have to pay). Has anyone experience the column lock problem even after having the recall work done?.........thks, BJ98
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From: winter haven florida
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other people have reported this happening and most have found the k-harness to be defective. do not pay to have this fixed. make the dealer make this right. tell them to research the latest recall and even call gm customer service to start a claim. let them know that you know this problem is well documented with other owners. gm is more than aware that there is a problem. they may try to sell you a new actuator. tell them the ecl problem is due to a defect that gm is well aware of and they should make it right. check the sticky about the column lock problem on this site and look at the gm letter also. the next step is to get a clb after the problem is fixed. it seems to be the best answer so far. also is the car still shutting off or has it cleared itself ? if it is still shutting off try putting a battery charger on the car for a little while before you try to start it and see if that helps. thunder racing and corvettes of houston both sell clbs for around $50.
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Thanks for the quick responses. The car is currently at the dealer. They were not able to get it yet but the service advisor hinted that it may not be related to the recall. How would he know if they haven't looked at it yet? I'm sure he is preparing me for an expense. By the way, what is a 'sticky' and how do I get more information about the recall and what is covered?........thks, BJ98
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Originally Posted by BJ98
By the way, what is a 'sticky' and how do I get more information about the recall and what is covered?........thks, BJ98
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Originally Posted by BJ98
Thanks for the quick responses. The car is currently at the dealer. They were not able to get it yet but the service advisor hinted that it may not be related to the recall. How would he know if they haven't looked at it yet? I'm sure he is preparing me for an expense. By the way, what is a 'sticky' and how do I get more information about the recall and what is covered?........thks, BJ98
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Originally Posted by BJ98
My 98 vette just locked up on me this morning. I got a message to have the column lock checked. The engine would start but as soon as I tried to move the car, the engine would shut off. I was trying to get it back in the garage. My concern is that I had the recall work done on the column lock over a year ago after getting the recall notice in the mail. Now the dealer is indicating that this could be a different problem than what was previously fixed (translation: I may have to pay). Has anyone experience the column lock problem even after having the recall work done?.........thks, BJ98
You got the Service Column Lock message, and the fuel cut's off when you move above 2 MPH. That's the Column Lock system so don't let them tell you otherwise. The BCM instructs the CL to unlock and expects to receive the correct lock status from the lock actuator (i.e. if the CL is instructed to UNLOCK, there's a feedback switch in the CL that sends an UNLOCKED signal to the BCM). If the BCM does not receive that signal it will enter a Fault Enable mode and instruct the PCM to cut fuel if the car is moved. If it thinks the CL is locked it doesn't want you to drive with it that way.
Earlier recalls masked the issue. The lasted recall 4006C disables the lock altogether (but read the sticky on issues with it). You should NOT have to pay for this.
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definitely get the CLB . but if you want to ready my misery please direct your attention to "need all opinions" in the c5 general section, started by me .. there are a number of responses
A you do not have to pay . and B . i am guessing your actuator is failing... have it replaced with a 2004 one.. they never seem to fail. You do not have to pay for it !!!! .. dont let the STEALERSHIP RIP YOU OFF ..
peace !
A you do not have to pay . and B . i am guessing your actuator is failing... have it replaced with a 2004 one.. they never seem to fail. You do not have to pay for it !!!! .. dont let the STEALERSHIP RIP YOU OFF ..
peace !
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Originally Posted by Cali17
definitely get the CLB . but if you want to ready my misery please direct your attention to "need all opinions" in the c5 general section, started by me .. there are a number of responses
A you do not have to pay . and B . i am guessing your actuator is failing... have it replaced with a 2004 one.. they never seem to fail. You do not have to pay for it !!!! .. dont let the STEALERSHIP RIP YOU OFF ..
peace !
A you do not have to pay . and B . i am guessing your actuator is failing... have it replaced with a 2004 one.. they never seem to fail. You do not have to pay for it !!!! .. dont let the STEALERSHIP RIP YOU OFF ..
peace !
Since, I've installed the CLB in my '04 Z06 and I see no need in getting the actuator replaced. My actual problem after the latest recall was performed was a faulty K harness, which there have been numerous complaints about their failures. Mine was removed after the last tow in.
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Thanks for all your responses. Good advice and I found out what a sticky was. I picked up my vette today and to my surprise the dealer did not charge me for the repairs. Unfortunately the tech advisor could not tell me what was done to fix it. He assured me though that the problem would not return. But now I seem to have another problem, which may have triggered the first. While picking my car from the deal (unfortunately after the service shop was closed) I got the infamous, remove key for 10 seconds and reinsert. While my steering wheel did not lock, my engine died. After reinserting, the engine started and everything was fine. Later I tried to start the car and got the same message and the same results (now two times in a row). The third time I started the car I had not problem. I get the sense something else is going out...........BJ98
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My guess is that they installed "another" faulty K harness. That harness is part of the latest recall, which also required removal of the lock plate in the steering column.
Order and install the CLB NOW and be done with GM regarding their non-fixable problem.
Order and install the CLB NOW and be done with GM regarding their non-fixable problem.
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Originally Posted by Tact
My guess is that they installed "another" faulty K harness. That harness is part of the latest recall, which also required removal of the lock plate in the steering column.
Order and install the CLB NOW and be done with GM regarding their non-fixable problem.
Order and install the CLB NOW and be done with GM regarding their non-fixable problem.
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My 98 just was flatbedded to the dealership for a $567 bill to replace the actuator. Can I get reinbursement from GM somehow on this? The dealership would not budge and said it was not part of recall. How do I get the district manger's number? Is there a list somewhere?
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Originally Posted by RedC5
My 98 just was flatbedded to the dealership for a $567 bill to replace the actuator. Can I get reinbursement from GM somehow on this? The dealership would not budge and said it was not part of recall. How do I get the district manger's number? Is there a list somewhere?
