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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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I was driving about 74-75 on a 70 interstate hwy. The LEO was driving in the opposite direction and saw me passing another car so he assume that I was driving fast.
He turned around and gave me a ticket of 80 in 70 zone.
When he turned around, I saw that and did slow down to only 65 when he stopped me.

Can a LEO get your speed when he is driving on the opposite direction? Yes, he is still driving fast (at least 65).

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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I don't see how he could...unless someone here knows better. In PA, I think they have to get you doing 7 or 8 mph over before they can stop you. That's just what I heard.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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I think that if he were running radar that he could have gotten you with that.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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I'm no expert (but I do plan on staying at a Holiday Inn Express someday!) - anyway I thought they had radar units that not only calculate your speed, but also subtract the spped that the LEo is traveling at that moment. Did I read too many comic books as a kid?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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The cops use doppler radar in thier guns. The only way to get an accurate reading is to be directly in front of or behind you. He cannot radar you from the side though. Hope this helps.

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I think that if he were running radar that he could have gotten you with that.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mike76002

Can a LEO get your speed when he is driving on the opposite direction? Yes, he is still driving fast (at least 65).

Thanks in advance!

-Mike
yes they can get you coming/going w/ laser or radar. and from the air by timing marks painted on the road. Vascar that takes pictures and computes your speed from them, and pacing you are also ways they can get you. Detectors only work for laser and radar.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ja03c5
I don't see how he could...unless someone here knows better. In PA, I think they have to get you doing 7 or 8 mph over before they can stop you. That's just what I heard.
They can write you at 1 over, but generally will give 5 to 10
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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yes they can get you coming/going w/ laser or radar. and from the air by timing marks painted on the road. Vascar that takes pictures and computes your speed from them, and pacing you are also ways they can get you. Detectors only work for laser and radar.



Coming and going with radar.

I would challenge lidar but for technical reasons beyond this forum.

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Your SOL. If you go to court ask to see the calibration report for the day in question. It is supposed to be calibrated at the beginning and end of the shift.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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I think you should do a little more homework rather that just asking here. Maybe they can, I just don't see how unless the radar unit is somehow tied to the cars speedometer. Speed is relative, coming, going no problem from a fixed position. Consider the problems with an oncoming car at an unknown distance and angle that is contantly changing and I think it would be very difficult to get an accurate reading. My .02, fight it and best of luck.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Thanks y'all!!!!
I just forgot my radar 1 day and cost me a silly ticket
Will do defensive driving then

-Mike
***I thought LEO has to be stood still to get your speed

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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If you plea guilty with explanation the cop won't show up in traffic court. Then give the judge some sob story about not paying attention and in most cases I have witnessed the judge knocks off MPH to lower the points or delete the points. This usely costs more say 50% more fine but is worth it. I also think the court would ratter see this due to the cop no having to show up. OR you could plea not guilty and the cop might not show, then you are not guilty,but if he shows you might no get the MPH lowered cause you made the cop show up and the judge don't want to lower the cops ticket in front of him. BUT definily go to court and try to get it lowered
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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There are tracks in the median all over I95 down here in FL. I have watched Troopers cross over and head back the other way to pull someone over several times. Very few people drive under 75mph on the Interstate around here.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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I would imagine that he was using a radar.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Officers are able to operate radar in SEVERAL different modes: Moving and Stationary. The radar I use on my motorcycle does both, and also enables me to lock the radar on the "fastest moving object". Since these units are mounted to the vehicle, it is able to display the speed of the patrol vehicle, as well as target vehicles. The doppler systems send out a radar signal from the antenna, which bounce off of objects (such as trees, signs, vehicles, etc..) and are returned back to the radar unit and computed into speed (i.e. echo and doppler shift). The radar computes how long it took that signal to be sent back and returns the speed of the patrol vehicle and target vehicle.

Moving Radar: 2 types--front and rear. Front moving radar track vehicles coming towards the patrol unit. Rear moving radar tracks vehicles going away. In other words, the LEO can check your speed as you're approaching him, and after you pass him.

Stationary Radar: Allows the LEO to track vehicles in all directions (Front: towards and away) (Rear: towards and away). Although it is possible to check a vehicle from the side to a certain degree, it is not generally accepted by some courts because the greater the cosign angle, the more room for error exists.

By no means am I trying to portray myself as a radar expert here. I do use these tools on a daily basis and know how they operate. I am merely trying to pass on some basic information to educate you, my fellow CF members.

Next time you see a LEO cruising down the street, remember:

"By the time you've seen him coming, he's already checked your speed, locked it in, and is double checking it...well before you even pass him". Radar detectors (for the most part) only warn you that you're fixin' to get a ticket!!!
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Hell No!!!

I have had 14 points, in 2 years in my Vette. I know how stuff goes and that is deffinatly a no go.

There is no way he got you on radar. That would be the easiest ticket in the world to fight!

If he didnt get you on radar and he noticed you where speeding because you were passing someone; then thats called a speed trap, which cops are not allowed to use.

Fight it and you will get the point off no questions asked.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrett FRC
Hell No!!!

I have had 14 points, in 2 years in my Vette. I know how stuff goes and that is deffinatly a no go.

There is no way he got you on radar. That would be the easiest ticket in the world to fight!

If he didnt get you on radar and he noticed you where speeding because you were passing someone; then thats called a speed trap, which cops are not allowed to use.

Fight it and you will get the point off no questions asked.
To assume that the LEO only got the speed by using his sight only, would be EXTREMELY foolish. Actually, to break it down for you, the proper technique we use is:

1) Visually observe that the vehicle is travelling higher than the posted speed limit. This is as easy as it sounds. Next time you're driving, look at vehicle driving in the opposite direction, and you can tell which vehicles are travelling faster than the others. Now, imagine doing this all day, every day as your job and see how good you become at doing it.

2) Estimate the vehicles speed. Certified RADAR operators must be able to estimate vehicles speed by visual observation, +/- a few miles per hour. The class I took required we be able to do this within 2 mph of the actual speed, on a consistent basis which is verified by an instructor riding with you.

3) Verify the observation and speed estimation using RADAR.

4) Pull your a$$ over because you were haulin gluteous maximus in your C5.

Note: If you question the officers training, integrity, or the validity of the radar during the traffic stop, YOU WILL GET A TICKET!!! YOU WILL NOT "PASS GO" AND YOU WILL NOT COLLECT $200.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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I get a kick out of all you poophouse lawyers.

Yes, the officer has radar/laser technology he uses to get you coming or going !

If you were speeding and got caught, the best you can do is go to the magistrate, plead for forgiveness, and ask they reduce the ticket. Save on points and the fine.

Beyond that....you're screwed ! Start slowing down and you can save on fuel too. Imagine the gas you could buy with the fine you're going to pay ?

Oh, and as an aside....do you people realize there are insurance companies out there providing law enforcement agencies with FREE radar/laser guns ? Yep....you guys are paying premiums so your insurer can provide detection devices to help raise your rates ! GEICO is one of 'em !

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I get a kick out of all you poophouse lawyers.
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