Column Lock DISASTER AVOIDED!!! A close Call...
Racer
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From: Scranton Pa.
While your cost is high it would have saved me a ton if I had it done a month ago. So far I have put a total of $1036 to get everything fixed. Anyway, what I would like to know before I commit, is how do I know this "is the fix to end all fixes" and what if it goes again in 1 or 3 or 6 months.
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
Team Owner
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From: S.W. Ohio. . . . . . NRA Life Member
you are invited to attend the CORVETTES OF WESTCHESTER COLUMN LOCK BYPASS MOD PARTY
lets also not forget that 2001 and newer C5's with the A4 do not have the column lock mechanism - therefore not needing any mod.
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Former Vendor
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
Try This.......
Originally Posted by seawolf
While your cost is high it would have saved me a ton if I had it done a month ago. So far I have put a total of $1036 to get everything fixed. Anyway, what I would like to know before I commit, is how do I know this "is the fix to end all fixes" and what if it goes again in 1 or 3 or 6 months.
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
We all have to keep everything here in perspective......
MOST people have no idea what is incolved...and what is possible....
Do you have any idea how many people have the CLB installed and think they are safe...when their CLB is a ticking time bomb.....waiting to get them stuck.....The CLB is NOT ALWAYS the ultimate fix and needs to be checked out......
Look at it like this.....$200 bucks (at least), a trip to the dealer with their 10 day waiting list BEFORE they even look at it, and lots of wasted time the first time.....
Sound like it's worth it yet.......? Let it happen a second time...and believe me tons of guys out there will tell you that it does and can happen a second time.....
Forget the inconvienence.....the towing and dealing with the dealer is just not worth the trouble......
Stay TUNED,
Chuck CoW
Drifting
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From: Sahuarita AZ
Originally Posted by WWK888
Let me get this straight....the CLB sells for $50 and you are charging another $100 to install it???? That install takes anywhere from ten to 30 minutes depending on your skill level of removing screws and panels.
Does not sound like a very good deal to me...
Does not sound like a very good deal to me...
Le Mans Master
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From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
We all have to keep everything here in perspective......
MOST people have no idea what is incolved...and what is possible....
Do you have any idea how many people have the CLB installed and think they are safe...when their CLB is a ticking time bomb.....waiting to get them stuck.....The CLB is NOT ALWAYS the ultimate fix and needs to be checked out......
Look at it like this.....$200 bucks (at least), a trip to the dealer with their 10 day waiting list BEFORE they even look at it, and lots of wasted time the first time.....
Sound like it's worth it yet.......? Let it happen a second time...and believe me tons of guys out there will tell you that it does and can happen a second time.....
Forget the inconvienence.....the towing and dealing with the dealer is just not worth the trouble......
Stay TUNED,
Chuck CoW
MOST people have no idea what is incolved...and what is possible....
Do you have any idea how many people have the CLB installed and think they are safe...when their CLB is a ticking time bomb.....waiting to get them stuck.....The CLB is NOT ALWAYS the ultimate fix and needs to be checked out......
Look at it like this.....$200 bucks (at least), a trip to the dealer with their 10 day waiting list BEFORE they even look at it, and lots of wasted time the first time.....
Sound like it's worth it yet.......? Let it happen a second time...and believe me tons of guys out there will tell you that it does and can happen a second time.....
Forget the inconvienence.....the towing and dealing with the dealer is just not worth the trouble......
Stay TUNED,
Chuck CoW
I agree that if you had any of the recalls done you are pretty much screwed and your services MIGHT be required, but to the others they do not need all the "extras" you mentioned.
Drifting
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From: Sahuarita AZ
The install is dead easy, click here for instructions.
It's plain and simple... this is a huge Corvette tax; no matter how much free drinks & pizza you throw in. Thousands of people have installed CLB kits w/o any BCM reprogramming and have not had their column fail again. By the way, BCM is Body Control Module not computer.
What's with all the excessive periods in your posts?
It's plain and simple... this is a huge Corvette tax; no matter how much free drinks & pizza you throw in. Thousands of people have installed CLB kits w/o any BCM reprogramming and have not had their column fail again. By the way, BCM is Body Control Module not computer.
What's with all the excessive periods in your posts?
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Former Vendor
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
See what can happen........
Originally Posted by seawolf
While your cost is high it would have saved me a ton if I had it done a month ago. So far I have put a total of $1036 to get everything fixed. Anyway, what I would like to know before I commit, is how do I know this "is the fix to end all fixes" and what if it goes again in 1 or 3 or 6 months.
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
As a side, is it all the pizza I can eat, cause if it is we could break even on this.
Thanks
Well then....Sorry to hear about your CLB disaster. IT CAN AND DOES HAPPEN....HERE'S THE PROOF!
Tell ya what.....Since you blew all that cash on your column lock DISASTER you can still come to my party and eat all the pizza you want!!!
Is Chuck CoW COOL or WHAT????
Stay TUNED!
Chuck CoW
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From: Houston, Tx Got traction?
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by another vendor
One of the most common and annoying problems with the C5 model Corvette is the steering column lock getting stuck! There is nothing like walking out to your car after a hard day's work only to find your $45k sports car is immobile due to a faulty lock. Fortunately, there is a way around this. A column lock simulator will allow you to disable the factory locking mechanism, while allowing the car's computer to still believe everything is working problem free. All year C5's with a 6 speed transmission, and all pre-2001 model C5's with an automatic can use this device. 2001 and later model automatic cars do not have a column lock at all, however the 6 speed cars retained it.
Included with the simulator is a Torx T-15 tool useful for getting the interior knee panel off during installation, and a brief instruction sheet.
Please note: If your column is already locked, the C5 column lock simulator will not unlock your steering column. You may be able to shake the steering wheel while turning the key to the on position to get it loose, and if that is the case, as long as you can get it unlocked you can then install a bypass and not have to worry about it anymore.
For 1997 and 1998 cars, there is a possibility you will randomly see a message "Pull key and wait 10 seconds" with a Column Lock Simulator. Thus far, 2% of my customers have had it, and other manufacturers have had the same issue with 1997 and 1998 model cars. If you have a 1997 or 1998 model, and you understand this, you can order below. You will have the option of a refund if the simulator does not work in your vehicle.
Included with the simulator is a Torx T-15 tool useful for getting the interior knee panel off during installation, and a brief instruction sheet.
Please note: If your column is already locked, the C5 column lock simulator will not unlock your steering column. You may be able to shake the steering wheel while turning the key to the on position to get it loose, and if that is the case, as long as you can get it unlocked you can then install a bypass and not have to worry about it anymore.
For 1997 and 1998 cars, there is a possibility you will randomly see a message "Pull key and wait 10 seconds" with a Column Lock Simulator. Thus far, 2% of my customers have had it, and other manufacturers have had the same issue with 1997 and 1998 model cars. If you have a 1997 or 1998 model, and you understand this, you can order below. You will have the option of a refund if the simulator does not work in your vehicle.
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Le Mans Master
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From: PNW
Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
There is an adjustment in the ECM and you need to have a TECH II to be able to reprogram the BCM (Body control module) in many cases to make the fix work.......
Chuck CoW
Chuck CoW
Burning Brakes
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From: Bergen County NJ
Originally Posted by SMR 67
Chuck, if your car has never had a tune and has never been to the dealer for the recall (in fact my late build '04 Z06 was not subject to the recall), would any BCM reprograming, tune adjustments or K-Harness removal be required? If so, why?
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From: Houston, Tx Got traction?
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Ok, just a thought. Your Tech II that you're re-programing with. You aren't just updating to one of the GM re-calls. Charging the $150 and then charging GM for the recall are you?
Melting Slicks
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From: canada
the guys offering a service here and everyone bashes him...
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
Drifting
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From: Sahuarita AZ
Originally Posted by steck
the guys offering a service here and everyone bashes him...
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
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Former Vendor
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From: Ossining New York
St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'10-'12-'13-'14
NOPE...just very busy running a business....
Originally Posted by WWK888
Apparently Chuck is very selective as to which questions he answers...
Nope...just very busy running a very busy business....I'd love to stay online all day and BS, but I have alot of work to do......Some people are not so busy.......
For anyone who cares to know.....PLEASE call the manufacturer of the CLB. They will tell you that IT DOES NOT WORK IN ALL CARS all of the time...ESPECIALLY when the Vehicle has had Various GM attempts.
Bear in mind....for those of you we lucky enough to have it solve your problem in 30 mins.....You were LUCKY..
Again, the manufacturer of the CLB will tell you if you ask....That it is not "GUARANTEED" to work for EVERY VEHICLE.....ALL OF THE TIME...
HOWEVER....With the CLB installed...The K harness removed....the BCM reprogramed..and the Adjustment to your tune......I GUARANTEE 99% success......
*** If my CLB FIX FAILS and you have your car towed here...I'll either replace the CLB or REVERSE everything I've done and give you your $150. back.....
Chuck CoW
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From: PNW
Originally Posted by Chuck CoW
HOWEVER....With the CLB installed...The K harness removed....the BCM reprogramed..and the Adjustment to your tune......I GUARANTEE 99% success......
Le Mans Master
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From: HONOLULU HAWAII
Originally Posted by steck
the guys offering a service here and everyone bashes him...
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
well, i've certainly blew a $100.00 way worse than this...
yeah, he's not out there spending his saturday for 'goodwill' purposes,, and he wants to make some money for his time...big deal.
if i lived closer i'd be there and let the experienced guys rip my column apart.
also, if i took a $50.00 CLB to my dealership,,they would find a way to charge $100 for the install,,, if not more, and they'd likely not fix it right, screw something up, and then blame the CLB !!
Has anyone offer to do this for free lately on this board??? (giving up a weekend, buy everyone drinks and pizza, and spend the day on your back awkwardly hanging out of as many cars show up, just because your a nice guy???)...no.
Hey I understand Chuck is a business man, all we are trying to do is educate a few consumers to give them a cheaper alternative. Isn't that what this forum is suppose to do? As a matter of fact I have installed two CLB's in other people's car for free that I did not know. I bet you if Chuck was really cool, he could have offered free installs for the CLB and made much more in return business because of his goodwill.
