Great topic

 

Nice prices on cam packages here:

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/cate...MID=3&catid=49

.....all the parts you'll (or the speed shop) will need.

I plan on going this route (MS3 or MS4) once I get my headers on.

 

These are definitely different specs than what I'm used to seeing around here. How would these recommended cams compare to say a 232/240 .595/.608 114lsa (G5X2) on the top end (peak hp) and low end around 3-3.5k rpm? How much (generally speaking) would you lose on the top end vs. gaining on the low end?

I was also under the impression that any LSA below 114 would hurt daily driverability.

Thanks for the new perspective Hammer!

 

They would not make as big of a peak horsepower as that big cam you wanted me to compare them to. At the 3-3.5 area, they should at least equal it if not stomping it in the dirt. The LSK lobed cams I have listed will perform extremely well across the entire powerband and will also produce excellent drivability.

As far as LSA....most people don't understand it. OVERLAP is what affects drivability. LSA is a way of controlling how much overlap. The cams I speced with a 112 LSA have less overlap than the bigger cam you posted with 114 LSA. In a nutshell, as the cam gets bigger, the more LSA you need to add to keep Overlap down to maintain drivability. If you look back at my cam list, I have OL listed for all. Most as you can see have a negative overlap (this is at .050" lift).

Hammer

 

It cost around $400 to have Comp custom grind you a cam. All the rest of the stuff is dependent on where and what you buy.

Hammer

 

I hope I'm not hijacking your thread. I can take it to another thread/PM's if you'd like. If you're interested in this info, then it's no problem

 

I have no idea what to get now!

 

Let me make it easy on you...get a set of Comp Cams 918 Beehive springs and use the:

XE-R lobed 220/226 .581/.585 112.5+4

Or if you want to deal with double springs, get the:

LSK lobed 219/223 .632/.636 112+4

Hammer

 

Thanks for the ideas! It doesn't seem like many people use this size of cam here. It's easy to get a high horsepower cam and justify the $2k or so to have it installed and tuned because you get XX amount of horsepower. With this recommended cam, I don't know what that number would be... Would I get a larger "area under the curve" out of this vs a high hp cam? I guess I'm looking for more to compare...

 

BINGO...you would get a larger area under the curve. I don't spec dyno queen cams...there are already tons of them out there. I prefer fast cars over big dyno numbers.

Hammer

 

Anyone using a cam with these specs? I'd like to hear some testimonials and opinions.

Hammer, if you don't mind me asking...how do you know so much about cams? Did you install something similar in your car? Looks like you've recommended these before, do you know anyone who's installed one? I'd still like to see a graph!

 

Hammer, Do you know what springs would be supplied with the Comp Cams 224/224 .581 lift 114 LSA custom grind cam kit? 918's? Do they supply pushrods with this kit as well?

 

This cam is in the forsale section brand new in box and would be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT for your and would make huge power throughout the entire rpm band and ni the high rpms and would idle great with its cam profile and 114 lsa. FUTRAL motorsports is one of the most highly respected LS series tuner in the country and this is his cam and if you call him or do some more research on LS1tech.com you will see this cam is a PROVEN WINNER< and the lift is not that high so it won't beat up your valve train like some of the other cams discussed that have over .600+ lift, etc.

This is about $100 off the price to by the cam directly from FUTRAL and is new in the box!!!

If you bought this cam I would go with some great value excellent product Patriot Gold or PRC Gold dual springs good for .650 lift for around $200 that come with titanium locks and retainers and you can get hardened push rods for $100.00. Most high perf. tuners here sell these springs and hardened pushrods and for $700 your ready to rock and roll with a complete cam kit and figure about another $1,000 TOPS for install. This cam is spec'ed out for exactly someboby like you to be driven on the street primarily, make excelllent power from 2200 to 6600 rpm and probalby make between 410 to 420 peak horsepower with headers, tuning and cold air intake. It also will perform very well in the lower rpms and you car will not be sluggish at all compared to some of the BIG CAMS that many folks are runnnng with specs similar to 234/240, .610 lift on a 112 to 114 lsa!

HERE IS THE LINK FOR SALE AND INFO ON THIS AWESOME STREET CAM that ALAN FUTRAL himself personally recommeded to me b/f when my Z was going to stay n/a with stock LS6 heads!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1617774
This is a new cam, I inspected it, washed it in mineral spirits, oiled it and wrapped it back up in the original box. I am now building a 383 so I bought an F-15, so I don't need this now. $325 shipped, Paypal okay but add 3%, or postal money order. PM or email me at frodo84@gt.rr.com . Specs are: Futral Motorsports - 228"/230" .576"/.595" 114LSA - aggressive profile with a 2200-6600 RPM range, fair idle

 

Where can I learn more about DCR, IVC, EVO, OL, etc? They talk about it a lot on ls1tech.com too. I've been reading threads on reverse split cams for a cam only, DD car. Any thoughts on a reverse split cam? MTI has their X1 which is a 230/227 .591/.571 112LSA and I was reading praises on that cam. If I get a custom grind I'm leaning towards the XER lobe. Is a .632/.636 lift not too much for stock?

 

I have a nice selection for you.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/store/54-446-11.html
Always upgrade your pushrods with chromemoly when swapping out your stock cam or break a pushrod no ****. This cam would be awesome with 918 springs and your stock rockers.

 

hammer is smart......now im confused (lots to think about). thanks for all the info guys, ill be doing a cam shortly too.

 

FORGET the MTI X1 cam and the Lingenfelter cam posted by the poster above would be 100% better for you and would be an AWESOME cam, but get some good dual valve springs for added protection of a dropped valve and piece of mind with any cam approaching .600 lift!

Here is link to the LPE 232/234 cam referenced below (but I would get it cut on a 114 lsa as it will idle a lot better and will be more street friendly for you and that seems to be important for you)!! I think you need to call a few TOP tuners here like Lingenfelter, East Coast Superchargering, LGM Motorsports, Allan Futral of Futral Motorsports, Texas Speed and Perf., tell them EXACTLY what your goals, expectations and usage for your car are, and they will recommend the cam that will make you the happiest. There are a TON of options out there for you and you need to do your homework to pick the right cam for your pride and joy Z06!


http://www.lingenfelter.com/store/54-446-11.html

 

I'm also ready to go the cam route. I just got kooks 1 3/4" headers w/ offroad X pipe on, and the honker CAI. I'm taking the pcm to a guy tomorrow (not a dyno tune, long story) for a tune.

Anyways, I've been searching on the Comp Cams website to find a match for Hammer's recommendation. It seems that to get the specs he suggests you must go with custom grind and no other? I've been looking at the GEN III/LS1/LS6 350 Xtreme RPM XR265HR Cam
PART #54-412-11 and saw the graphs posted on them, it looks like a really even power gain and not overly aggressive. I'm also looking to keep my car very streetable. So Hammer, since the website doesn't post all of the specs on the XR265HR, do you recommend it? Or should I just call them up and order a cam package with the custom numbers you posted?

Thanks

 

You have to fax Comp with the correct numbers and a rep will call you back to verify and collect payment.

Anyway, tell me which cam of mine you are specifically interested in, and I'll supply you with the exact info you need to fax to them to get the cam ground.

Hammer

 

Futral recommended a 226/228 .620/.586 112+4 for my application. Seems reasonable to me, but I haven't checked the VE's.