Stock LS1 + Blower =
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Stock LS1 + Blower =
Basically what is says... Take a stock Vette off the streets, strap on a blower from ECS, What kind of power are we talking.
Not a conservative tune, but nothing where the motor is going to take a crap on you, something in the middle... What rwhp are we talking?
And I've heard the the high compression of the ls1 engines make blowers on our cars less efficient? I guess that is why most people who run high boost grab a 383, 402 and run a lower compression ratio?
Not a conservative tune, but nothing where the motor is going to take a crap on you, something in the middle... What rwhp are we talking?
And I've heard the the high compression of the ls1 engines make blowers on our cars less efficient? I guess that is why most people who run high boost grab a 383, 402 and run a lower compression ratio?
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On stock LS1s ECS say the are usually in the 500-525 rwhp range and when you go forged like I have then 700+ is the norm and lots of strokers over 800 rwhp
Just depends on what you want and what you can afford to support as those over 700 rwhp have done many supporting mods that cost as much or more than going forged, I know I have done many supporting mods
Just depends on what you want and what you can afford to support as those over 700 rwhp have done many supporting mods that cost as much or more than going forged, I know I have done many supporting mods
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Okay, this may not help answer your question, but it will give you an idea.
2002 LS6 motor (stock w/ stock manifolds) and a A&A Pro-charger and a mail order tune he gained just about 175 rwhp, putting him around 500 rwhp. Traction became a huge issue, and this was on 6psi of boost. Sounds like fun to me!
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2002 LS6 motor (stock w/ stock manifolds) and a A&A Pro-charger and a mail order tune he gained just about 175 rwhp, putting him around 500 rwhp. Traction became a huge issue, and this was on 6psi of boost. Sounds like fun to me!
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Ok but I'm getting 500 and 420 give or take... Those aren't even close. I have noticed most guys with a stock blower are running only somewhere in the low to mid 400's...
But why is that... is that a very conservative tune? Because I can see the 500 is possible.
Yeaaaa that's always fun, lol. But this confirms the 500 range on a stock motor is definitely possible, hence you grab some shoes too.
But why is that... is that a very conservative tune? Because I can see the 500 is possible.
Traction became a huge issue,
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Around 500 to 540 with a procharger and a good tune. The 383 and 402 with forged internals can take more boost and of course make more power 600 to 800+ RWHP can be done with the right set up and $$$$ and yes a lower compression is great but a stock motor can only take so much boost and them
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
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yes a lower compression is great but a stock motor can only take so much boost and them
Yet stock, we can push as much power as they can with a forged setup and relatively the same amount of boost?!@?
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Yea but the muuuustang 4.6 DOHC Cobra dude's are telling me that blowers on our "stock" cars are not efficient because of our much higher compression ratio...And that we should be running the N20...
Yet stock, we can push as much power as they can with a forged setup and relatively the same amount of boost?!@?
Yet stock, we can push as much power as they can with a forged setup and relatively the same amount of boost?!@?
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On stock LS1s ECS say the are usually in the 500-525 rwhp range and when you go forged like I have then 700+ is the norm and lots of strokers over 800 rwhp
Just depends on what you want and what you can afford to support as those over 700 rwhp have done many supporting mods that cost as much or more than going forged, I know I have done many supporting mods
Just depends on what you want and what you can afford to support as those over 700 rwhp have done many supporting mods that cost as much or more than going forged, I know I have done many supporting mods
Some auto's may just under the 500 mark. We have had customers run 10.7's with a stock LS1 and our Paxton kit.(driving 500 miles to the nationals to do it)
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Hell ya it does, I got pulled over sunday actually for "rapid acceleration" cop said he would do the same thing if he had the car, so just wait till im out of the city limits first
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Haha that's what I like to hear. For those of you that have close to stock setups... Can you give me a range on the price of what the parts + labor + tune cost you?
If you can break it up like that for me that would be great too, because I may do the install myself, save some money, and then go get her tuned...
If you can break it up like that for me that would be great too, because I may do the install myself, save some money, and then go get her tuned...
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I purchased a used stock procharger kit, had ECS install and tune it and then ended up upgrading to a FMIC, then more injector, then tune again, then fuel upgrades, then tune again, then headers, then tune again.... etc.
The hardest part of the install is pinning the crank. You are already in NJ, so you can just have ECS tune it for you when you are done
Buy their kit, dont try to piece something togethor - it really doesnt end up being any cheaper and is very frustrating.
Dont forget to upgrade your drivetrain...
The hardest part of the install is pinning the crank. You are already in NJ, so you can just have ECS tune it for you when you are done
Buy their kit, dont try to piece something togethor - it really doesnt end up being any cheaper and is very frustrating.
Dont forget to upgrade your drivetrain...
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So your suggesting I grab their kit? Because I see a lot of you guys going with the used blowers...?
Are you saying this because their kit comes with everything I would need, and it was more difficult for you to keep adding parts?
I didn't know ECS upgraded the fuel system and stuff too, that stuff is not really a DIY...
I was just trying to save some money 
And Smooth, if you don't mind me asking, what is an around the sort of price you paid for an install + tune?
Are you saying this because their kit comes with everything I would need, and it was more difficult for you to keep adding parts?
I didn't know ECS upgraded the fuel system and stuff too, that stuff is not really a DIY...
I was just trying to save some money And Smooth, if you don't mind me asking, what is an around the sort of price you paid for an install + tune?
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