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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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If you're just starting to mod your car and you don't possess any outstanding mechanical skills, is this the way to go? One simple engine swap and you're ready to run with the big boys!



DESCRIPTION: LS7 Crate Engine (limited supply)

Retail is Price $17,495.00, Special Delivered Price $12,844.99

The king of all Corvettes is the amazing 2006 ZO6. It tops out at 198 mph, runs the quarter mile in 11.5 seconds at127 mph, and hits 60 mph in a jaw-dropping 3.5 seconds (in first gear). All of that performance is the result of superior GM engineering and an engine we call the LS7, the most technologically-advanced small-block ever built. A natural continuation of the LS Family, the LS7 uses a 7.0-liter aluminum dry-sump block, CNC-ported cylinder heads, and titanium rods and valves to pump out 505 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Talk about efficient, the LS7 helps the 2006 ZO6 get over 28 mpg while still being the fastest Corvette ever produced! Is this the Chevy small-block in its highest form? Only you can decide, and GM Performance Parts has made it that much easier by offering the already legendary LS7 as a complete crate engine, ready to bolt into your favorite project car.

GM PART # 17802397
CATEGORY: Eng Asm
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $17,495.00
OUR PRICE: $12,494.99
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Well, it's nice.

However, it is NOT just a simple engine swap (I.e., oil pan/pump).

Is this the way to go - yes, if you have either the talent (diy) and the money (tunner install).

On the other hand - for basically the same $ (including tunner costs) you can get a LPE 427, installed, for the money,

AND

get 100+ more HP
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AC54ME
Well, it's nice.

However, it is NOT just a simple engine swap (I.e., oil pan/pump).

Is this the way to go - yes, if you have either the talent (diy) and the money (tunner install).

On the other hand - for basically the same $ (including tunner costs) you can get a LPE 427, installed, for the money,

AND

get 100+ more HP
for 17K or 12K?
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AC54ME
Well, it's nice.

However, it is NOT just a simple engine swap (I.e., oil pan/pump).

Is this the way to go - yes, if you have either the talent (diy) and the money (tunner install).

On the other hand - for basically the same $ (including tunner costs) you can get a LPE 427, installed, for the money,

AND

get 100+ more HP
You must have an inside line to their prices. What they're quoting on their web site isL

Darton Block - 1997 - 2004 Package Price $19,995.00

Standard Block - Package Price $19,995.00 (both 530 Hp)

So how exactly do you get an installed, LPE 600 HP engine for $13,000?
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Originally Posted by AC54ME
Well, it's nice.

However, it is NOT just a simple engine swap (I.e., oil pan/pump).

Is this the way to go - yes, if you have either the talent (diy) and the money (tunner install).

On the other hand - for basically the same $ (including tunner costs) you can get a LPE 427, installed, for the money,

AND

get 100+ more HP
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Another less expensive option is a nice supercharger setup, which can be had (installed) for $10,000 or so. 500 HP is not that hard to achieve with this mod.
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
If you're just starting to mod your car and you don't possess any outstanding mechanical skills, is this the way to go? One simple engine swap and you're ready to run with the big boys!



DESCRIPTION: LS7 Crate Engine (limited supply)

Retail is Price $17,495.00, Special Delivered Price $12,844.99

The king of all Corvettes is the amazing 2006 ZO6. It tops out at 198 mph, runs the quarter mile in 11.5 seconds at127 mph, and hits 60 mph in a jaw-dropping 3.5 seconds (in first gear). All of that performance is the result of superior GM engineering and an engine we call the LS7, the most technologically-advanced small-block ever built. A natural continuation of the LS Family, the LS7 uses a 7.0-liter aluminum dry-sump block, CNC-ported cylinder heads, and titanium rods and valves to pump out 505 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Talk about efficient, the LS7 helps the 2006 ZO6 get over 28 mpg while still being the fastest Corvette ever produced! Is this the Chevy small-block in its highest form? Only you can decide, and GM Performance Parts has made it that much easier by offering the already legendary LS7 as a complete crate engine, ready to bolt into your favorite project car.

GM PART # 17802397
CATEGORY: Eng Asm
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $17,495.00
OUR PRICE: $12,494.99
Let's make a deal. You give me the 13G's and I will make your car more faster and sound more funner than that engine. And if you planned on paying to have that put in you could make a killer fast car outta what you got. Think about it, if you put close to 20 large into any car's engine (even a rice burner) you get 100% retarded fast
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Originally Posted by shortbus57j
Let's make a deal. You give me the 13G's and I will make your car more faster and sound more funner than that engine. And if you planned on paying to have that put in you could make a killer fast car outta what you got. Think about it, if you put close to 20 large into any car's engine (even a rice burner) you get 100% retarded fast
You gonna give me a 36K - three year warranty and guarantee me that what you'll build will be as tractible, reliable and trouble free as a factory engine too?


Yep, those rice-burners can haul butt....just as long as they're running.
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Someone needs reading comprehension (response to threads above).

I stated 'including tunner' costs with the LS7 - (plan on $5-8K).

Add the $5-8K to the $12.4k and you are at $17.4 - 20.4k.

That will get you "BASICALLY" the same costs for 100+ more HP.
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
You must have an inside line to their prices. What they're quoting on their web site isL

Darton Block - 1997 - 2004 Package Price $19,995.00

Standard Block - Package Price $19,995.00 (both 530 Hp)

So how exactly do you get an installed, LPE 600 HP engine for $13,000?
See above.
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While I'am at it:

For $5995 (LPE) you can get the H/C. Kooks, exhaust, etc. installed, tunned, etc!

It will give you 439 RWHP, or 505 SAE engine (6sp).

S/O's Vert dynoed on a 103 degree day, and she has 4:10's amd got those numbers

Good as a LS6 - for less than 30% of the costs
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Why not just add a supercharger or STS turbo? You think an engine swap is easy?
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Originally Posted by AC54ME
Someone needs reading comprehension (response to threads above).

I stated 'including tunner' costs with the LS7 - (plan on $5-8K).

Add the $5-8K to the $12.4k and you are at $17.4 - 20.4k.

That will get you "BASICALLY" the same costs for 100+ more HP.

I guess I'd have to know what that "including tuner" .... includes.
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
Why not just add a supercharger or STS turbo? You think an engine swap is easy?
Perhaps not "easy", but straightforward. Pull one out, put one in.

I would be a bit apprehensive about the dry sump, the PCM and the wiring harness...and for the same reason...it would require some...finagleing.
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Personally...If I was starting over, I would much rather have the LPE 427 than a GM LS7. With the LS7 crate engine, you still need to address intake, headers, exhaust, install, tuning, etc. From my personal experience, my C5R-427 out-performs the new Z at the track.

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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
I guess I'd have to know what that "including tuner" .... includes.
At a minimum:

Dry sump installation/reconfiguration
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