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Old 03-19-2007, 09:17 AM
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Has anyone done a paddle shifter conversion on a C5?

Search only came up with C6 info.

I'd be happy with iether the steering wheel paddles or a modified console shifter that I just move left-right.

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In either Hot Rod or one of the Chevy performance mags, there was an article this month about a retrofit kit for paddles...but if I remember correctly, it was for the older transmissions. Also, need to replace the steering wheel with a non-airbag style. Was kind of neat...thought about doing it in my 86 Monte Carlo SS.
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I want the 6 speed auto conversion
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Originally Posted by QuikZilver
In either Hot Rod or one of the Chevy performance mags, there was an article this month about a retrofit kit for paddles...but if I remember correctly, it was for the older transmissions. Also, need to replace the steering wheel with a non-airbag style. Was kind of neat...thought about doing it in my 86 Monte Carlo SS.
I think the theory is to use a switch(s) to tell the tranny to shift up/down. Given that I should be able to put the switch anywhere and not have to replace the steering wheel. The computer does this all the time. Question is where are the inputs and can we "tap" into them?
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Originally Posted by screw991le
I want the 6 speed auto conversion
What he said.
Old 03-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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There are two wires that exit the powertrain computer; LT Green #1222,40 that grounds the 1-2 shift solenoid in the transmission and WT BK #1223 that grounds the 2-3 shift solenoid in the transmission. Using these two wires, some logic chips and external paddle switches, shifting 1,2,3,4 should be possible either by the computer or by the paddle switches if the computer commands are bypassed. I tapped the two wires described and use the decoded signal to drive leds so that I know what gear the computer is calling for. When the car is in 4th OD at 35 MPH and the gas pedal is pushed all the way down the computer calls for 3rd then 2ond then 1st in rapid order even though it feels like it's going from 4th to 1st. The shifter I made is not a paddle type but the leds are in the shifter ****; by using some micro switches all seven positions have their own color. Making a paddle shifter requires wires to move around with the steering wheel unless a wireless system is used. If I had a 6 speed I would rather have a paddle shifter where either switch could do the up and down shifting. Having a 4 speed I am content with the shifter on the console as long as it has no buttons to push.
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There is a guy on the C6 forum that put a C6 6-speed manual into a C5. Don't know if anyone's done it with a 6-speed auto yet, but I'm hoping it's only a matter of time before someone figures it out!
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wow, i would def. be interested....


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I believe its called the Shrifter

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Originally Posted by BitViper
I believe its called the Shrifter

twistmachine dot com
That is pretty cool. Thanks for the link.
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Here's what you want, saw it at sema last year:
www.mastershift.com
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Originally Posted by SeaLawyer
There is a guy on the C6 forum that put a C6 6-speed manual into a C5. Don't know if anyone's done it with a 6-speed auto yet, but I'm hoping it's only a matter of time before someone figures it out!
What's the advantage in swapping to the C6 manual tranny? I thought they were the same T56?
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Originally Posted by abraswell
What's the advantage in swapping to the C6 manual tranny? I thought they were the same T56?

They are talking about the new 6 speed AUTO tranny in the C6. it has a pattle shifter on the steering wheel. C5 only has 4 speed Auto. I agree - not much advantage in the c5 6 speed Manual vs. c6 6 speed Manual (beside it should be little more stout to handle 400 hp) I wonder if the c6 z06 6sp manual is the same? I bet not.
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Originally Posted by abraswell
What's the advantage in swapping to the C6 manual tranny? I thought they were the same T56?
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Originally Posted by JEEP/C5
They are talking about the new 6 speed AUTO tranny in the C6. it has a pattle shifter on the steering wheel. C5 only has 4 speed Auto. I agree - not much advantage in the c5 6 speed Manual vs. c6 6 speed Manual (beside it should be little more stout to handle 400 hp) I wonder if the c6 z06 6sp manual is the same? I bet not.
I understand the topic of this thread. Read the post I quoted.

The T56 was already handling the 405hp of the C5Z, and all the torque of the Viper V10, and yes, it is the same tranny in the C6Z. Maybe some components have been beefed-up, but it is still the T56.
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Originally Posted by Fast one
There are two wires that exit the powertrain computer; LT Green #1222,40 that grounds the 1-2 shift solenoid in the transmission and WT BK #1223 that grounds the 2-3 shift solenoid in the transmission. Using these two wires, some logic chips and external paddle switches, shifting 1,2,3,4 should be possible either by the computer or by the paddle switches if the computer commands are bypassed. I tapped the two wires described and use the decoded signal to drive leds so that I know what gear the computer is calling for. When the car is in 4th OD at 35 MPH and the gas pedal is pushed all the way down the computer calls for 3rd then 2ond then 1st in rapid order even though it feels like it's going from 4th to 1st. The shifter I made is not a paddle type but the leds are in the shifter ****; by using some micro switches all seven positions have their own color. Making a paddle shifter requires wires to move around with the steering wheel unless a wireless system is used. If I had a 6 speed I would rather have a paddle shifter where either switch could do the up and down shifting. Having a 4 speed I am content with the shifter on the console as long as it has no buttons to push.
any more info? doesnt apply to me at all, but im intrested Sounds like good engineering work Pictures?

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Would be an interesting conversion. Someone surely will figure it out at some point.
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Gear Vendors has an overdrive for $5K that will give you 8 speeds.
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Originally Posted by parussky
Here's what you want, saw it at sema last year:
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Thanks for the links, I'll check them out.


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