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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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I'm going to the California Speedway tomorrow to go drag race and I just had a question for guys with A4's. What gear do you race in? Do you race in regular Drive, or drop it down to 3? I went last time and kept it in 3 and it ran good, but I just want to know if there's any difference in the 1/4 mile. Thanks guys.

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just keep it in 3rd.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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I don't know if it holds for all years of C5 A4 (since almost every year got some sort of software tweak), but in "3" the WOT shifts happen 200 to 300 rpm higher.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Does it really make a difference whether you are in "Drive" or "3" from a standing start and mashing the pedal to the floor for a quarter mile run? I'd be shocked if it does. AutoX and road courses? Sure. Drag racing? How could it matter?
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Originally Posted by RedDragon
Does it really make a difference whether you are in "Drive" or "3" from a standing start and mashing the pedal to the floor for a quarter mile run? I'd be shocked if it does. AutoX and road courses? Sure. Drag racing? How could it matter?
I don't know or think it does, i keep it in 3rd so after the run it does not up shift to 4th and help use the engine to brake.
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Turn traction control off and keep it in 3rd

Hurts the trans in D
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OK thanks guys. Hopefully I hit high 12's this time, I got brand new KDW's put on yesterday so hopefully they help with the launch. You guys got any pointers on the launch?
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That's the nice part about an A4, no clutch issues, no missing a shift! I love mine and I agree, keep it in 3. I've also heard that it can hurt the tranny doing it in D.
As for the launch warm your tires up some without using the water box. Drive around the water box, then back up, but don't get into the box (otherwise w/ wet tires you'll be sliding all over the place off the line). Then briefly do a burn out holding your brakes and hitting the gas simultaneously which will allow the back tires to spin while holding the front (poor mans line lock). Then scoot to the line slowly to stage.
Now, assuming u have a stock converter, mash your brake pedal again at the line and gently raise your rpm's by hitting the gas to get to about 1200 or 1300. It will feel like she's about to break loose from the line, but you'll get a better 1/4 mile and 60 ft time doing this rather than simply mashing the gas pedal from idle off the line.
Leave as the last yellow light just comes on and away u go! Takes lots of practice to find your sweet spot on the tree. For me it has been between the 2nd and 3rd yellow light, but you need to grow into this. So for starters, try leaving as the last yellow light comes on. Let us know how u do!
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Burn out on first to spin the tires and change it to Drive as soon as they start spiining

On the run, just keep it on 3
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Originally Posted by RedDragon
Does it really make a difference whether you are in "Drive" or "3" from a standing start and mashing the pedal to the floor for a quarter mile run? I'd be shocked if it does. AutoX and road courses? Sure. Drag racing? How could it matter?
I'd guess you keep in in 3rd so that it doesn't shift one more time on you at the end... but that's an educated guess, not a known fact to me personally... DO I win????

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Originally Posted by Humanoid 2.0
just keep it in 3rd.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH
Turn traction control off and keep it in 3rd

Hurts the trans in D

It hurts the transmission to drive it in D?!? Now I am really interested in the real answer if "3" is better to drag race in than "D" and if so, for what reasons.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDragon
It hurts the transmission to drive it in D?!? Now I am really interested in the real answer if "3" is better to drag race in than "D" and if so, for what reasons.

Thep point of putting it in "D" is to not have it shift to 4th at the end of the track and slow you down.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by prwest
Thep point of putting it in "D" is to not have it shift to 4th at the end of the track and slow you down.
Assuming the car was running up to redline in 3rd, wouldn't a shift into the fourth gear be a good thing in order to keep pulling, ie accelerating? And if it wasn't nearing the redline then even in "D" the car wouldn't shift from 3rd gear up to fourth at WOT, which is pretty much where a person is in a drag race ---> WIDE OPEN THROTTLE.

I am not here to beat a dead point but no one has offered a convincing reason for 3 over D in a drag race. With my 3.73 gears and aggressive tune I run in 3 around town to avoid alot of the overdrive upshift and downshifts. But in a drag race I don't the difference.
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Originally Posted by RedDragon
It hurts the transmission to drive it in D?!? Now I am really interested in the real answer if "3" is better to drag race in than "D" and if so, for what reasons.
uhh... did you not read post #4 ?

On mine, I used the Predator to give me WOT redline shifts in all gears... so it wouldn't matter whether in 3 or D.
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
uhh... did you not read post #4 ?

On mine, I used the Predator to give me WOT redline shifts in all gears... so it wouldn't matter whether in 3 or D.
Uhh, yeah I read it. It started with the ultra-confident words "I don't know..." so I didn't take it for fact for all autos. If you used software to change your transmission then we both know yours changes gears above redline in either 3 or D so it doesn't seem like 3 or D would matter for you in a drag race either, which was the original question. For the record my transmission does the same thing as yours.

I just need to somehow confirm your statement that a stock transmission running in 3 will change gears differently than a stock transmission running in D. To me that doesn't make sense but it could be true.
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Well I just got back from the track and I'm sorry to say it sucked ***. I ran 13.5xx on all 4 runs, compared to my 13.404 that I ran before I put the Vararam intake and BFG KDWtires on. What the hell is up with that? Why did I get slower? It was overcast the whole day and cold and misting half the time we were there, maybe weather is at fault? I was just disappointed the whole day, I did what you guys told me to do and my best run was 13.511 today. At least I beat a GT(which I took off late on the launch and caught up and passed him) and a 300 SRT-8 which was alright. But I was expecting to run low 13's maybe high 12's so I think I'm gonna get the car tuned and see if that helps. Just thought I would share my crappy day.
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Originally Posted by MannyFresh
Well I just got back from the track and I'm sorry to say it sucked ***. I ran 13.5xx on all 4 runs, compared to my 13.404 that I ran before I put the Vararam intake and BFG KDWtires on. What the hell is up with that? Why did I get slower? It was overcast the whole day and cold and misting half the time we were there, maybe weather is at fault? I was just disappointed the whole day, I did what you guys told me to do and my best run was 13.511 today. At least I beat a GT(which I took off late on the launch and caught up and passed him) and a 300 SRT-8 which was alright. But I was expecting to run low 13's maybe high 12's so I think I'm gonna get the car tuned and see if that helps. Just thought I would share my crappy day.

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