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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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So I sold an OEM rim on here and the guy is calling bull**** on my description.

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Now, the centercap might not be OEM(the shop might have used the center cap from the damaged A/M rim that was on there) but he's saying the rim is an aftermarket rim from Bob@HouseofWheels which is complete BS. Am I wrong here? There's a GM stamp clearly shown on the back. In face the reason WHY I got rid of this rim is BECAUSE I have A/M thin spokes on my car and the body shop accidentally ordered an OEM rim from our local dealership. I don't want to turn this into a flame war with this guy because it could be just a simple misunderstand but I'm an honest stand up guy. I haven't sold anything on this site aside from this wheel and I DO NOT want my name tarnished. With that GM stamp on the wheel there's no question about the authenticity correct? Hell I'll call my guys at the body shop tomorrow to get an invoice if I have to.

Please help me clear this up.

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EDIT: Sorry for the big pic showing the stamp but it's the best I could do. He has possession of the rim now and is calling BS. I told him to check the back of the rim for the stamp. Waiting on his response. I guess I'm just looking for some reassurance that I'm right here.

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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Does it have GM stamped on it anywhere?
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Does it have GM stamped on it anywhere?
Look at the 2nd pic posted(the big one )
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Looks like the real deal to me. Maybe he was upset about the cap.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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This was his response

"It is a GM authorized reproduction done for aftermarket-not an OEM wheel from 2000-2004 regular production. This wheel was manufactured on January 19, 2007."

How can it have the GM stamp if it's not a GM part? Now, if he's right I will do the right thing. Maybe it's my fault for assuming it's OEM for having a GM stamp on it???
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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OEM is a rim that came off a production car. It will be stamped GM. Also what year did it come off of? There are alot of knock off around. But that stamp looks correct to me. It looks like mine, kinda fuzzy but I can see the stamp.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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It didn't come off of a car. It was ordered new from a local dealership by the body shop.

Let me ask this then. Let's say it IS a GM authorized aftermarket rim(like he claims). Will it have a GM stamp??? I mean how can something non-GM have a GM stamp on it?? I'm not out to screw anyone so if he's right then I'll work with him. On the flip side, if I'm right I want to make sure I'm right.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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I see the GM stamp but can't read what it says under. It may be a licensed GM part but not OEM. If you have a better pic of the stamp it would help.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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That is a GM wheel. What exactly is he claiming and how did he come up with what he is saying about an aftermarket authorized repo?
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Originally Posted by JWB ZO6
I see the GM stamp but can't read what it says under. It may be a licensed GM part but not OEM. If you have a better pic of the stamp it would help.

I don't. He has the rim now. I'll call the body shop tomorrow and find out where they got it from. I'm starting to think I'm wrong now. I had no idea it wouldn't be authentic GM if it still had the GM tag on it. I was told it was ordered from the local Chevy dealership.
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That is a GM wheel. What exactly is he claiming and how did he come up with what he is saying about an aftermarket authorized repo?

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Barry, it's an OEM rim. Check the back, it has a GM stamp on it and it came from a local dealership. I did not substitute an aftermarket rim. In fact I ditched the OEM one BECAUSE I have aftermarket ones on there and my body shop ordered an OEM one by accident.

Like I said, please flip the rim over and check the back of it, it's a genuine OEM rim from GM(as evidence of the GM stamp).


Check it and get back to me.

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It is a GM authorized reproduction done for aftermarket-not an OEM wheel from 2000-2004 regular production. This wheel was manufactured on January 19, 2007.
Like I said if I'm wrong I'm wrong...I just need to be 100% sure on who's right and wrong. Now he did tell me that I ordered this from from Bob@House of Wheels which is COMPLETE bull****. I don't know how he would know where the rim was ordered from.

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It sounds like you are doing the right thing in finding out. I'm sure you will work something out thats fair for all.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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It sounds like you are doing the right thing in finding out. I'm sure you will work something out thats fair for all.
So is it possible for it to be non-GM when it has a GM stamp on it??
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Don't be surprised if he is willing to ,......ACCEPT them for MUCH less. Take them back!... they ARE nice wheels and you will not have any trouble selling them. AND barrett Jackson calls them "correct" even IF they were made under,.."CONTRACT" from manufacture.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Don't be surprised if he is willing to ,......ACCEPT them for MUCH less. Take them back!... they ARE nice wheels and you will not have any trouble selling them. AND barrett Jackson calls them "correct" even IF they were made under,.."CONTRACT" from manufacture.
I'll refund him a few bucks. He got the wheel for $150 shipped from me. I'll give him back 30-40 bucks If he wants more back than that I'll just take the wheel back.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FrostyZ28
So is it possible for it to be non-GM when it has a GM stamp on it??
Yes, The GM stamp doesn't mean GM manufactured it. They license others to do so. It does not have to come off a car to be OEM. That just means that the Original Equipment Manufacture made it. They have to keep these in stock for 10 years. So it is possible to get one with a later date on it.
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Originally Posted by FrostyZ28
So is it possible for it to be non-GM when it has a GM stamp on it??

It is a OEM wheel, just not off a car. GM makes and sells parts for car for up to 20 years after the last production date. Just like an alternator, GM will make them for their cars for so long after the car has been made.

Perfect example, Oldsmobile is gone. But sheet metal and parts are still available and will be available for 10 to 15 more years.

Bottom line, that is a GM made wheel, just not off a car. OEM stand for Original Equipment Manufacturer. So it is a GM wheel made by GM making it OEM, IMHO.
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Oh, BTW in 2000 GM did not make wheels, 2 companies made them for GM. I know this because in 2000, the same 5 spoke wheels have 2 different size lips. Because 1/2 way through that production year they changed companies.

GM does not make alot of parts on their cars.
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GM will also license manufactures to make copies of OEM but the stamp on it should say something like licened by GM.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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So was my ad misleading by saying it's an OEM wheel???
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