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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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I know the waxers out there hate the clearcoat on the C5. It's rock hard, yet scratches very easily (how did GM come up with that?) Anyway, I've tried many compound and pad combos to try to correct mine. I've finally found the winning, albeit time consuming combo. Here's a couple of before after shots. It was getting late so I'll finish up tomorrow:

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Menzerna IP with Lake Country purple wool/foam pad @1500rpm (x2)
Menzerna FPII with 3M white compound pad@1500 rpm (x2)
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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big difference, but how can you tell if the swirling is in the wax or in the clearcoat, without compounding?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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awesome work!
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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big difference, but how can you tell if the swirling is in the wax or in the clearcoat, without compounding?
Probably the easiest way is to get a claybar kit and use it to remove any bonded surface stuff. Then clean with some detail spray you'll know right away if the swirls are in the clear or in the wax.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by always717
big difference, but how can you tell if the swirling is in the wax or in the clearcoat, without compounding?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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That looks amazing. I just sold my black Dodge dually and swore I'd never own another black vehicle (because of the swirls), but I might reconsider now.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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Very good paint correction.....

Your right, C5 and C6 cc is rock hard. The Menzerna twins win again....
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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It's amazing what you can do with a rotary if you know what you are doing.
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Awesome results.
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It's amazing what you can do with a rotary if you know what you are doing.
Very true.... and that's a very big "if"! I wouldn't trust myself doing it, and I'd have to see similar results beforehand from somebody else I'd trust to do it. I've been burned too many times from those who have made similar claims and haven't delivered the goods. It's all easier said than done. The "after's" look like Chicago taking pictures in a mirror! Very impressive.
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I used the Menzerna IP and FP on my vette trunk lid and my wife's BMW to remove a lot of haze from a prior polish job. It was the only stuff that would work after trying lots of swirl mark remover etc. I used my Porter Cable plus the orange pad. Worked great, although most insist on a rotary rather than my random orbital buffer. I'm too chicken to use a heavy duty rotary!
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Originally Posted by Chicago
Probably the easiest way is to get a claybar kit and use it to remove any bonded surface stuff. Then clean with some detail spray you'll know right away if the swirls are in the clear or in the wax.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by berryj
I used the Menzerna IP and FP on my vette trunk lid and my wife's BMW to remove a lot of haze from a prior polish job. It was the only stuff that would work after trying lots of swirl mark remover etc. I used my Porter Cable plus the orange pad. Worked great, although most insist on a rotary rather than my random orbital buffer. I'm too chicken to use a heavy duty rotary!
I was also leery about running a rotary across my car. But after many, many tries with the PC & IP/orange pad combo I wasn't getting anywhere. Since the clear is so hard, it's very forgiving. You just have to be patient with it. The Lake Country purple pad is terrific for clearing up a good chunk of the swirls. Followed by a white pad it takes care of the holograms that are commonplace with a rotary. I'm almost done! This takes way too long.
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Thx for the tips. I'll consider it in the future.
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Originally Posted by berryj
I used the Menzerna IP and FP on my vette trunk lid and my wife's BMW to remove a lot of haze from a prior polish job. It was the only stuff that would work after trying lots of swirl mark remover etc. I used my Porter Cable plus the orange pad. Worked great, although most insist on a rotary rather than my random orbital buffer. I'm too chicken to use a heavy duty rotary!
I have the PC, and the Menzerna products too. I also was hesitant to use a rotary, so I stuck with the random orbital. The results were good, but I might have to do it again, and just spend a little more time on it. Good lighting is a MUST for this stuff. I just worked outside, and when I saw the car in different lighting, alot of stuff showed up. to the Menzerna products though to remove these paint flaws. By the way, why did you only work at 1500 rpm's. Is that the normal rpm for a rotary? I worked at 3000- 4500rpms, which is what they recommend for a random orbital.

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Excellent results!
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Good work.

For the guys leary of the Rotary, with foam pads they are pretty forgiving. Not like back when wool was the only choice. You also might want to give a Cyclo a look. It's very much like using the PC.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Nice. Very nice. I've always done my waxing by hand, but I might have to pick up one of these soon.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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I just got my TR Z06 2 weeks ago. I spent 6 hrs yesterday with pc @ 5500 rpms, Lake Country yellow pads, and 3M medium cut compound with 2 -3 passes. Although I got all the blemishes and swirls out, there are still scratches that just won't go ! I have the Menzerna IP, but when I did the paint on the TA, the 3M seemed to work a little better. I will try the IP but i don't hold much hope for it. Is the rotary the next step before I try wet sanding? These are not major scratches, but just the kind from improper washing, but they will not come out!
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