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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Has anyone had a subwoofer box built with twelve inch subs facing the rear seats. I have seen a few that housed the eights and tens. which size sub gives the loud deep bass, and why cant I find the audio section?
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The audio section is under "General Corvette".

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3 12s sunney side up.

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Well not sure if you really mean "facing" the back seats because I do not think you would be able to close the hatch with them up right. Now I had a custom box made with a 12" inch that sits in the spare tire well flush with the trunk floor. Looks nice to. And yes it thumps.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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I wouldn't think you could build a large enough in closure in a Vette for a 12" woofer to give off tight clean lower frequencies unless you do what EG did to Grond. Sorry but top end extremely expensive speakers don't "thump" they are crisp and precise. If I was you I would stick to high quality eight or ten inch woofer(s); bigger isn't always better
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Well not sure if you really mean "facing" the back seats because I do not think you would be able to close the hatch with them up right. Now I had a custom box made with a 12" inch that sits in the spare tire well flush with the trunk floor. Looks nice to. And yes it thumps.
do you have lots of pics of your install or maybe some schematics? I have a couple of extra 12"s laying around that I want to find a home in the C5 eventually. (or at least one of them)
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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do you have lots of pics of your install or maybe some schematics? I have a couple of extra 12"s laying around that I want to find a home in the C5 eventually. (or at least one of them)
Before you do ask GBVette to let you listen to his triple 8's. You may change your mind about the 12's
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Originally Posted by jserio
Well not sure if you really mean "facing" the back seats because I do not think you would be able to close the hatch with them up right. Now I had a custom box made with a 12" inch that sits in the spare tire well flush with the trunk floor. Looks nice to. And yes it thumps.
Same setup in mine. Kicker ZX 350, Kicker Solobaric 12L7

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Originally Posted by jthom
Has anyone had a subwoofer box built with twelve inch subs facing the rear seats. I have seen a few that housed the eights and tens. which size sub gives the loud deep bass, and why cant I find the audio section?
I have had three sets of the JL w7's and they are mind blowing !!!!!!! Right now I have one JL 10" w7 in a custom fiberglass box made to fit the middle storage area with a JL 500/1 pushing it, and it is the best sub I have ever heard!!!! And when you are not trying to turn heads blocks away, you can tone it down and it sounds great with every type of music.
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3 12s sunney side up.

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And that doesn't blow the rear window out?
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The more surface area, combined with the most power will give you the most powerful, lowest bass.

MHO, I like the idea of a single super sub. I have an IDMAX 12 powered at 1200watts in a custom 1.2 fiberglass box I built in the back. It can reset your heartbeat and is just as loud at 20hz as it is at 80hz.

The rear of the car, the corvette logo, despite EXTENSIVE sound deadening in the car, flexes in and out as the sub plays. That said, I usually listen to it at about 30-50% volume. Around there, it blends perfectly with my Dynaudio front stage. The IDMAX sounds extremely good.



Here's a pic of the work in progress. It barely fits in there, depth wise.

The JL W7 is also an excellent choice for a great sounding, but powerful sub. I like the IDMAX more though, I think it sounds nicer, and its cheaper too.

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Storm, When I say thumps it is meant as it kicks azz. Your interjection is only part correct. I have heard a 10 fosgate sound much better then a type of JL 12 and yes there was a sizeable price difference as well. Now I had an 8" JL dual cone in my 95 and I now have the 12 in this car and the same power driving both and the 12 By Far sound so much better. My stereo I can turn up to almost full power and it is "clear and crisp". If you turn it up with heavy base it could give you brain damage.

mcgile, I do not have pics of the install since I did not install this one.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:21 AM
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Paul - you dont have any trunk space

I have a 15" rockford fosgate p3 and a 1000watt zapco pushing it and it "slaps". Its really not even fun listening to it full blast after a while. I like it though.


A supporting vendor here makes a flush false floor box to house 2 12's....http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=thesubfloor
and he is local. he can change it up for you as well.

good luck.
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Paul - you dont have any trunk space

I have a 15" rockford fosgate p3 and a 1000watt zapco pushing it and it "slaps". Its really not even fun listening to it full blast after a while. I like it though.


A supporting vendor here makes a flush false floor box to house 2 12's....http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=thesubfloor
and he is local. he can change it up for you as well.

good luck.
I have all the room I need and the top still fits in. I made all of it myself.

Looks like a nice set up.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by stormrider
Before you do ask GBVette to let you listen to his triple 8's. You may change your mind about the 12's
I may like to do that. I was planning on going with 8s or may be 10s in the Vette. the reason that I'm thinking about the 12s now is that I already have them on hand. they are pretty high end and were expensive and now just sit in my closet. plus they have manufacturer supplied grills which would be nice to have if mounting in the bottom of the trunk area facing up. another idea I like is going with 1 12 and 2 8's. but I'm ok with the bose system, I'll spend money on hp first! My weekend ride has two Rockford Power series DVC 15s running on 1150W. I like power :-)
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what i meant was like the ones in this post but using twelves. I think that the front would have to be at an angle to have enought room.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1664438
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you might want to get one from that guy then, because those boxes look real good. im sure he can do 2 12's.

good luck.
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Storm, When I say thumps it is meant as it kicks azz. Your interjection is only part correct. I have heard a 10 fosgate sound much better then a type of JL 12 and yes there was a sizeable price difference as well. Now I had an 8" JL dual cone in my 95 and I now have the 12 in this car and the same power driving both and the 12 By Far sound so much better. My stereo I can turn up to almost full power and it is "clear and crisp". If you turn it up with heavy base it could give you brain damage.

mcgile, I do not have pics of the install since I did not install this one.
Okay that makes sense, nothing adds to the listening experiance more than thight bass notes that have punch. I hate muddy base but that is just me
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Okay that makes sense, nothing adds to the listening experiance more than thight bass notes that have punch. I hate muddy base but that is just me
As you probably already know, muddy bass is caused by the following things:

* Volume is too high/Gains are set wrong
* Cabin gain
* Improperly designed enclosure
* Poor equipment design
* Mistaking low end response for muddiness

It is not; however, a side effect of the size of the woofer, if the woofer has an adequate motor design, which pretty much any modern woofer does.

Any amount of overpowering bass will begin to sound muddy, when it drowns out your midbass. So going to smaller, quieter speakers sounds better. You can turn down the big sub's volume and get the same effect, AND have better low end response. Assuming the enclosure is appropriate. Consider that the bottom of your bass note is 120db and the top half of it is only 105db. Doesn't take a genius to figure out why it sounds funny.


That said, there's nothing wrong with 8s. You can usually get plenty of bass out of them to blend with your front stage, at the expense of low end response. But you get the benefit of taking up MUCH less room, and much less weight.

I like my music to be just as loud at 20hz as it is at 80, this is why I'm using a 12. Also, I like headroom. That's why my front speakers see a total of nearly 700watts, and the sub is on a 1200w diet. You can always turn it down.

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whatever happened to mounting a fifteen inch woofer on a board and basically using the trunk as the box.
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