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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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When ya say Z06 Screens does that mean just the screen mod or does it actually need to be Z06 screens?

Might sound a little noobish but then again.. I am!
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cod
When ya say Z06 Screens does that mean just the screen mod or does it actually need to be Z06 screens?

Might sound a little noobish but then again.. I am!
I would go with the actual screens, there isn't huge difference in cost
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cod
When ya say Z06 Screens does that mean just the screen mod or does it actually need to be Z06 screens?

Might sound a little noobish but then again.. I am!
I went with the actual Z06 screens the screw on because I heard that the aftermarket screens that attach with tape or velcro could fall off.
NOTICE: the key word is COULD not WILL
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Are the "actual" screens a dealer only item when i search sites i find Z06 Style.. etc. but they attach with doulbe sided tape
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cod
Are the "actual" screens a dealer only item when i search sites i find Z06 Style.. etc. but they attach with doulbe sided tape
Yup, bet if you posted a WTB in for sale you could find "actual" screens pretty cheap.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cod
Are the "actual" screens a dealer only item when i search sites i find Z06 Style.. etc. but they attach with doulbe sided tape
I use the dealer supplied factory ZO6 screens installed with velcro. Been on for years without any problems.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cod
What would you guys suggest..

Not a daily driver, just a Vert with 18,500 miles I drive around on pretty days with the top down.

Just wanting to start the Mod Process!!

Next will be an exhaust.... sometime in the future..
Vararam of course!!!!!!
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by VaraRam Industries
Vararam of course!!!!!!
Now if you could just set me up with a vr6 for my truck.....
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06Electron
"... Our system will decrease your 1/4 mile times by 3/10ths - 1/2 second, Guaranteed!! ..."
I don't doubt a word of that but does it make V-ram the right product for someone who says, "...I drive around on pretty days with the top down..."

That doesn't sound like a person who plans to use their car at the track.

Of course, only Cod can answer that.

IMO a V-ram might be overkill and an unnecessarily expensive mod where the BW might be more realistic in this case.

Plus, would one buy a used vette with a V-ram or a BW knowing the reason V-rams are installed are to improve 1/4 mile speeds? Me thinks the BW equipped vette will get more interest and a higher price. But of course, I could very well be wrong.

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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 05:19 AM
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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I have the Blackwing and like it. But it is generally accepted that the Vararam will give you the best increase in power for an air intake mod.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rickko
Problem with our answers is most of us will only buy one or the other (and like the one we got for ourselves).
Not me, I usually end up second-guessing myself after two weeks

It gets expensive.


Originally Posted by rickko
...The post above about "not much change at the track" when going to Blackwing might be the best comparison but then, how consistant and experienced is the writer? Were the atomospherics the same? Was the testing done at the same track, etc. Lots of uncontrolable variables to consider along with that statement.
Admittedly, not very scientific at all. 'Similar' weather days, same track, but 3 months apart. But then again, how controlled are the 'Vararam picked me up .2 in the 1/4' testimonials?

In any event, it's my guess (and just a guess) that the real value of CAI is the 'C' part, that is, cooler air. Vararam gets the coolest from the front of the car (I don't put too much weight on the 'ram air' efffect), Honker, Hurricane and other bottom feeders probably slightly warmer due to their inlet location. I have logged IAT w/ Honker, just a few degrees above ambient. Vararam probably pretty close to ambient but I've never seen anyone who logged the IAT w/ it. Considering how the PCM pulls timing based on IAT readings, the cooler air is where the increased power of air intakes comes from, methinks.

Additionally, the Honker relocates the MAF from the front of the air-bridge to the rear, closer to the TB/ intake. It is said (with nothing solid to back it up) that this improves throttle response. I have no real evidence to confirm or deny this cuz, let's face it, most of the 'Big SOP difference' claims based on Air filter/intake mods are just that...claims.

Considering all this, I went w/ Honker because of quality of construction and it's ability to pull cooler air than filter inside the engine compartment. On just common sense it would seem logical that Vararam would pull cooler air than Honker or any other, but the ones I saw just didn't look to have the same quality as Honker. I probably gave up a *slight* bit of performance by not taking advantage of every last degree of cool air the Vararam provides but to me, a worthwhile trade-off.

I'm not ragging on the Vararam at all; my common sense (yeah, like that can be trusted) would tell me that it's probably the best at 1) Pulling in the coolest air and 2) getting it up into the engine. And that would translate into the most power. That, however, was not my only concern.

It's kinda like the header discussions, i.e. "Which make the most power?" Well, I've gone through that too and found that, well, that's not necessarily *the* most important consideration for me. Given that all LT headers are pretty close in dyno/peak HP #'s (are you really gonna feel a 3-5hp difference anyway?) there are always other considerations; design, where in the curve they make the power, etc. Same thing with air intakes, there is no *best* for *all* situations/circumstances.

IMO (and that's worth about what you paid to read this, i.e. nothing)

Pure Power:
1. Vararam
2. Honker/Hurricane/BPP
3. Blackwing

Quality/appearance:
1. Honker
2. Blackwing
3. Vararam

Price:
1. Blackwing
2. Vararam
3. Honker

Look at your options, decide what is *most* important and make your choice.

Originally Posted by Z06Electron
VARARAM has a guarantee. If your car's ET doesn't drop significantly, ( I believe 5 tenths in the 1/4) They will buy the intake back. Does the BW offer that guarantee from the manufacturer?
Like i said, I have nothing against Vararam and think that it's probably the best in terms of pure power increase. 1/2 a second, though seems a bit much, company claim or not.

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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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Why are so many recommending installing Z06 screens with the Vararam? Is it purely for cosmetic reasons?
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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vararam then ghl exhaust is what i did welcome to the mod club .most peps are telling you to get the screens to help keep out large pieces of trash from the hightway since this is a true air ram system .i think the screens are only needed depending on where you live and drive .i have had mine on for about 15 months and have cleaned it twice and i have found no pieces of trash ..to screen or not to screen thats the ? ..
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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I bought a VaraRam too. I have not yet installed it, but I will this weekend. It seemed like it made the most gains and after reading Cajundude's site I had to buy it.
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Originally Posted by VetteFTW
I bought a VaraRam too. I have not yet installed it, but I will this weekend. It seemed like it made the most gains and after reading Cajundude's site I had to buy it.
I bought the VaraRam NEW from Cajundude for $289 shipped, what does the Honker and BlackWing cost?

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Originally Posted by LF97C5Vette
I bought the VaraRam NEW from Cajundude for $289 shipped, what does the Honker and BlackWing cost?

-Dan
Blackwing ~ $225
Honker ~ 425 if you can find a GP
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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I went from a Blackwing to the Callaway Honker. the Blackwing is in a box now.
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Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1
Not me, I usually end up second-guessing myself after two weeks

It gets expensive.




Admittedly, not very scientific at all. 'Similar' weather days, same track, but 3 months apart. But then again, how controlled are the 'Vararam picked me up .2 in the 1/4' testimonials?

In any event, it's my guess (and just a guess) that the real value of CAI is the 'C' part, that is, cooler air. Vararam gets the coolest from the front of the car (I don't put too much weight on the 'ram air' efffect), Honker, Hurricane and other bottom feeders probably slightly warmer due to their inlet location. I have logged IAT w/ Honker, just a few degrees above ambient. Vararam probably pretty close to ambient but I've never seen anyone who logged the IAT w/ it. Considering how the PCM pulls timing based on IAT readings, the cooler air is where the increased power of air intakes comes from, methinks.

Additionally, the Honker relocates the MAF from the front of the air-bridge to the rear, closer to the TB/ intake. It is said (with nothing solid to back it up) that this improves throttle response. I have no real evidence to confirm or deny this cuz, let's face it, most of the 'Big SOP difference' claims based on Air filter/intake mods are just that...claims.

Considering all this, I went w/ Honker because of quality of construction and it's ability to pull cooler air than filter inside the engine compartment. On just common sense it would seem logical that Vararam would pull cooler air than Honker or any other, but the ones I saw just didn't look to have the same quality as Honker. I probably gave up a *slight* bit of performance by not taking advantage of every last degree of cool air the Vararam provides but to me, a worthwhile trade-off.

I'm not ragging on the Vararam at all; my common sense (yeah, like that can be trusted) would tell me that it's probably the best at 1) Pulling in the coolest air and 2) getting it up into the engine. And that would translate into the most power. That, however, was not my only concern.

It's kinda like the header discussions, i.e. "Which make the most power?" Well, I've gone through that too and found that, well, that's not necessarily *the* most important consideration for me. Given that all LT headers are pretty close in dyno/peak HP #'s (are you really gonna feel a 3-5hp difference anyway?) there are always other considerations; design, where in the curve they make the power, etc. Same thing with air intakes, there is no *best* for *all* situations/circumstances.

IMO (and that's worth about what you paid to read this, i.e. nothing)

Pure Power:
1. Vararam
2. Honker/Hurricane/BPP
3. Blackwing

Quality/appearance:
1. Honker
2. Blackwing
3. Vararam

Price:
1. Blackwing
2. Vararam
3. Honker

Look at your options, decide what is *most* important and make your choice.



Like i said, I have nothing against Vararam and think that it's probably the best in terms of pure power increase. 1/2 a second, though seems a bit much, company claim or not.
Quality? They are ALL made of plastic???? The vararam does it's JOB the best. If you want to pay $425 for something that is inferior in doing it's JOB because it looks Prettier, then I've got some swamp land I'd like to sell you.
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