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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Can you really tell a difference in 89 octane (in the gas pedal) or 92 octane? I have a race with my buddy and he drives a 07 Mustang GT (nice car) with a 5 speed trans. I have a 97 C5 auto. No engine MODs on either car, can I bet him?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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i can't speak for everyone but, my vette does not like cheap or low grade gas at all!!! I always use 93 from mobil w techron additive or just fill up with shell.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Not only can you tell but if you keep putting that cheap crap in your tank, you'll get to experience the fun of replacing your gas gauge. How cool would that be?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Doesnt the book call for 91?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cfee
Can you really tell a difference in 89 octane (in the gas pedal) or 92 octane? I have a race with my buddy and he drives a 07 Mustang GT (nice car) with a 5 speed trans. I have a 97 C5 auto. No engine MODs on either car, can I bet him?
You can use the cheap stuff and the computer will compensate but you won't make all the power it's capable of. Whether you can actually feel the difference, I doubt it. GM recommends 91 octane for an unmodified LS1.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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I have used mid grade 89 octane on a stickly road trip, but only used shell, chevron or similar. it works for me on long 4500 mile trips ... to each his own however.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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The lower the octane rating, the more likely the presence of knock at WOT.
When the PCM senses knock it retards timing causing a signficant loss in HP
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This was answered in the other thread. Different octane yields different results. That's why the stations offer different octanes, and they cost differently.

As stated before, buy premium for your Corvette. It's not a damn Civic.

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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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And your speed contest will occur on a sanctioned drag strip, right?

Always premium for me, but I can only get 91 octane up here in Colorado.

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Originally Posted by cfee
Can you really tell a difference in 89 octane (in the gas pedal) or 92 octane? I have a race with my buddy and he drives a 07 Mustang GT (nice car) with a 5 speed trans. I have a 97 C5 auto. No engine MODs on either car, can I bet him?
Why use cheap gas? Get the most out of your car and avoid replacing your fuel gauge...use a Top Tier gasoline.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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The book actually says:

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Gasoline Octane
Use premium unleaded gasoline with a posted octane of
91 or higher for best performance. You may also use
middle grade or regular unleaded gasoline rated at 87
octane or higher, but your vehicle’s acceleration may be
slightly reduced. If the octane is less than 87, you may
get a heavy knocking noise when you drive. If it is bad
enough, it can damage your engine.

The knock sensor is a reactive device. In other words the damage however minor has occurred when it makes the timing adjustment. Once thats happened as rws1 says, the fuel economy and performance suffer.

E-T who was involved in the design of the C5 had very strong views that with the high compression LS1 you shouldn't use less than 91 octane. Seems sensible to me.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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I saw another post on this very subject last night.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Hmmmmm, lets see,
  • My Z06 cost me a tad over $52,000 when I bought it.
  • The manufacturer calls for the use of premium fuel, 91 octane or above.
  • The difference between regular and premium is $0.30 more per gallon.
  • It costs $5.40 more to fill up from an empty tank.....assuming 18 gallons

Anyone see where I'm going with this?...
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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93 here and don't really care to find out how it would run on 87

Chuck
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JACKAL0PE
Not only can you tell but if you keep putting that cheap crap in your tank, you'll get to experience the fun of replacing your gas gauge. How cool would that be?
after 1/4 million miles I have had no problems with 87 octane gas, for several years I drove 100 to 150 miles a day to work and back, this is my everyday driver and the gas savings over my blazer (12 mpg) or jeep (14 mpg) helped pay for my vette. I still drive 50 miles a day round trip. Occasionally I put a tank or two of shell premium thru it but for the most part I use murphy 87. I haven't had to do anything to the ls1 other than replace the harmonic balancer. it still gets 27 mpg and does not burn oil. some of us like there vettes even though we may not be rich.
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy the cheap lower octane gas. It will cause problems later.
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy the cheap lower octane gas. It will cause problems later.
No it won't
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Just buy 91 or higher. Sure it will run on something lower, but why tempt fate when it's designed for something higher.

And yes you should be able to beat the mustang especially if you have the 3.15 rear end. Mind you it won't be a walk seeing as he's got a 5 speed.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Another example of the C5 being too affordable to kids.....

Is the C5 going to become the new Mustang now? See teenagers driving them around every corner.......
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