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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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NONE are better. They are simply Different

Get the one that's right for you and Enjoy
This ends the thread entirely. Thanks Vega$Vette .
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QUOTE>>>Take it easy. I am seeing the same kinds of posts I read on supraforums, and trust me, it's just part of people being people. So get over yourself, and stop being so wholier than thou.<<<

There is no W in holier. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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QUOTE>>>Take it easy. I am seeing the same kinds of posts I read on supraforums, and trust me, it's just part of people being people. So get over yourself, and stop being so wholier than thou.<<<

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys, I see I have sparked quite the debate.

Couple more questions I saw some good advice in drive both and see what you like. I have driven my buddies coupe but it is heavily modded, never driven a Z. I am only 24 and I don't know how many dealers are just going to let me hop in and drive. Any advece?

Also I am around 6 feet four inches. Am I going to run into a spcae issus in the Z?

Thanks again all
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No space issues for you in the Z. I'm 6'2" and mostly torso; wasn't a problem for me. If you don't want a hassle at the dealer, just wear something business casual (dockers and a polo style or button shirt) and they'll let you drive one. Have you checked insurance cost? For me, there wasn't a big difference between the Z and the Coupe (maybe $20 every six months). Might be different for you at age 24.

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I chose the coupe because....

1. Removable top
2. ALOT better seats, friends Z06 feels like youre sitting on a rock !
3. It has plenty of power even with the A4
4. Probably has been treated a little nicer.
5. Tired of shifting

I chose the coupe and GLAD I did !
I Recently got 32.4 MPG on a 1750 mi trip from Portland to Bakersfield.
SO SO Glad I had those SPORT SEATS !!
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Hey Flynbya

I'm not saying there aren't coupes that will smoke me, there are c4 coupes that will smoke most anything c5 or c6. That wasn't my point, my point was that many people kept saying you can make a coupe like a Z cheap and I kept saying that wasn't true. It took you $4000 and to me that isn't cheap. Maybe to the OP it is, but at the same time that amount eats up the cost difference between the coupe and Z. Plus a modded coupe isn't going to bring anymore than a non-modded one when you're talking about $4000-5000 worth of mods, but a stock Z will hold it's value when you go to sell them.

To others who have called me a broken record, he asked for the pros and cons of both. You buy a Z for performance, with your logic there should be NO Z06's out there, it's a pointless car. You just keep saying over and over like a broken record mod the coupe it's cheap, mod the coupe it's cheap. Look at it this way a bank is going to finance the car not the mods, so why don't you buy the Z for the $50 a month more in payment and finance the first $4000-5000 worth of "mods" on the bank, then take the next $4000-5000 and mod the z like you would have the coupe.

The reason the c5r was based on a c5 coupe was because it was created prior to the existance of a FRC and I can guarantee you it did not have a removeable top, just as the redesigned c6r uses Z06 instead because they were designed at basically the same time, had the z06 existed when the c5r was born I can guarantee you it would have been based on the FRC styles.

Also this is the stupidest arguement since you are saying the coupe is a better choice since it's open air and obviously the c5r wasn't.

also for any vert owners when a coupe owner bags on the looks of a Z basically they are bagging on verts too since in essence their body lines are almost the same, just soft versus hard.

Finally I don't ever recall saying one time that the coupe was a bad choice, merely that if the OP bought one thinking he could "cheaply" convert to z performance levels he would be disappointed, and also if $4000 is cheap to get to Z levels on a $20,000 coupe, please understand that you just paid 20% of the cars total cost in mods to equal the level of another car. Why on earth does everyone measure their cars against Z levels of performance anyway, if it doesn't matter. How many coupe owners have said I have near Z levels of performance? If it is only 50 hp then why even use it as a measure of performance gain? Why not measure c6 z06 performance instead, because a coupe and $10k and you're past that. So why even shoot for C5 z levels anyway? Just my thought.

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mnfmkf
I chose the coupe because....

1. Removable top
2. ALOT better seats, friends Z06 feels like youre sitting on a rock !
3. It has plenty of power even with the A4
4. Probably has been treated a little nicer.
5. Tired of shifting

I chose the coupe and GLAD I did !
I Recently got 32.4 MPG on a 1750 mi trip from Portland to Bakersfield.
SO SO Glad I had those SPORT SEATS !!
he can sell the z06 seats on ebay for $1000 and then buy some nice sport seats for $1000 and swap. I agree the sports seats are nicer, but I also feel like this shouldn't be a point to sway a purchasing decision since it is a piece of cake to trade straight across for sport seats, and I can leave my Z in 6th all the way down to 27 mph, it'll actually go down to about 13 mph, but then it is hard on the valvetrain and it takes forever to get back up to speed, otherwise 3rd will get me all the way down to 10 mph so when I'm in traffic I rarely shift anyway. My thought.

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Electron
Hey Flynbya

my point was that many people kept saying you can make a coupe like a Z cheap and I kept saying that wasn't true. It took you $4000 and to me that isn't cheap. Maybe to the OP it is, but at the same time that amount eats up the cost difference between the coupe and Z..
I think that would be just about 1/2
Originally Posted by Z06Electron
Plus a modded coupe isn't going to bring anymore than a non-modded one when you're talking about $4000-5000 worth of mods, but a stock Z will hold it's value when you go to sell them.
This is a very true statement
The smart modders save their cookies though and demod before sale to recoupe maybe..........50% of the that investment or so

Originally Posted by Z06Electron
The reason the c5r was based on a c5 coupe was because it was created prior to the existance of a FRC and I can guarantee you it did not have a removeable top, just as the redesigned c6r uses Z06 instead because they were designed at basically the same time, had the z06 existed when the c5r was born I can guarantee you it would have been based on the FRC styles..
But don't they rebuild these cars each and every year?Of course they do,so again,why would they leave that stiffer chassis and 80 lbs. on the table?
It is right there for the taking!
You know what I'm saying ?
But point taken that they were not available at the onset.....





Originally Posted by Z06Electron
Why on earth does everyone measure their cars against Z levels of performance anyway, if it doesn't matter. How many coupe owners have said I have near Z levels of performance? If it is only 50 hp then why even use it as a measure of performance gain? Why not measure c6 z06 performance instead, because a coupe and $10k and you're past that. So why even shoot for C5 z levels anyway? Just my thought.
Well,My guess is because it has been the benchmark for some time now.

It's really not a big deal though,z's are badazz cars,that's all there is to it.
I think the $$$ will keep me from getting to c6z levels

I just don't want to be the slowest vette in the pack

I know you are close to me and we will meet up sometime here in the future at a meet.So I look forward to meeting you, and seeing your car, and talking further with you

Ps.I can really appreciate your enthusiasm!!

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by flynbya2
I think that would be just about 1/2

This is a very true statement
The smart modders save their cookies though and demod before sale to recoupe maybe..........50% of the that investment or so


But don't they rebuild these cars each and every year?Of course they do,so again,why would they leave that stiffer chassis and 80 lbs. on the table?
It is right there for the taking!
You know what I'm saying ?
But point taken that they were not available at the onset.....






Well,My guess is because it has been the benchmark for some time now.

It's really not a big deal though,z's are badazz cars,that's all there is to it.
I think the $$$ will keep me from getting to c6z levels

I just don't want to be the slowest vette in the pack

I know you are close to me and we will meet up sometime here in the future at a meet.So I look forward to meeting you, and seeing your car, and talking further with you

Ps.I can really appreciate your enthusiasm!!
I wouldn't expect anything less from anyone with a corvette am I right? We'll just let this issue rest with this. The OP has heard both sides now HE needs to make the choice that is right for HIM.

Go buy a vette!
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Electron
those $400 headers don't come ready to bolt up.

high flow cats $300
X Pipe $250
Headers $400
$300 exhaust shop work

that is $1250
LG Street which bolts up and will outperform them is $1300 with high flow cats.
You save $50 for an inferior product???

That makes me a spoiled rich what??? I worked DAMN hard for everything I have and don't take kindly to being called spoiled, because I spoiled myself, with the money I WORKED FOR!

and the fact that you used the word hella informs me of your intelligence level

also according to your mods you have like $15,000 -$20,000 worth of mods done to your car and I'm the spoiled rich guy with credit card debt up the azz? I'm beginning to think maybe your mods are especially since you are trying to save money with $400 headers.






Your a idiot And no there is no 15-20k in mods i have i have bought all used cost affective stuff.. You are probbly some old 70 year old guy that has nothing to do but argue on here. Oh and your stupid the headers come with a X-pipe and there u go bringing up high cost parts high flow cats off ebay 45 a piece not 300. You are probbly not even for real. You probbly a poser that has a camaro instead of a Z.. Go back to the poser forums...
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Perfect
Originally Posted by AlexSmith
..... You're probably going to offend alot of people by recalling their posts as immature, simply because you disagree or don't like it. .....
no, not because i disagree or don't like it, but because they are talking out their neck AND immature......(regional enough for you, "homie"?)

gotta go dry my tears now, sit on high and reassure myself just how much i am Wholier than thee.

i find it interesting that you are so knowledgeable about a coupe vs. a zo vs. an frc, when, by looking at your sig, you are "WANTING" a corvette. stick with your supra.

so while my original intent was to post this up, i realize that you and this subject are no longer worth my time. however, if you would care to continue this in public, i would be happy to oblige, little man.

with nary an ounce of respect, sir (and i use the term loosely),

rich
Ah, thank you for another stab at my ethnicity Rich. Kinda hypocrytical how you call others immature, yet you attack me with a predetermined mindset because I said "flossin" previously, and now call me "homie." Good one.

That said. I will also point out that you do not have to own a Corvette to be familiar or at all knowledgeable of the differences between a car with a targa, ZO6 Corvette, or any car with a fixed roof. So while you roll on the floor laughing at that, I will point out that two of the three cars I have owned have fixed roofs, and the Supra has a targa. I would also like to point out other vehicles with targas that are not Corvettes: NSX-T, TVR Tuscan, Toyota Supra, Porsche 911 and others.

Unless I missed why I cannot input knowledge on the subject about roof options, then please explain, but seems I am more than knowledgeable enough about it. Also, I have driven and had rides in enough Corvette Coupes and ZO6s to also form a valid point. Oblige me not so little man .
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I've been following this thread, and it never ceases to amaze me how threads like this always degenerate into bashing, and name calling. What the hell difference does it make which body style one prefers over the other? To the original poster - buy the one that makes you happy and leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by blacksedan87
I've been following this thread, and it never ceases to amaze me how threads like this always degenerate into bashing, and name calling. What the hell difference does it make which body style one prefers over the other? To the original poster - buy the one that makes you happy and leave it at that.


This one has been beaten to something beyond death. Sometimes, the online experience brings out the worst in people.
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Ah, thank you for another stab at my ethnicity Rich. Kinda hypocrytical how you call others immature, yet you attack me with a predetermined mindset because I said "flossin" previously, and now call me "homie." Good one.
thanks.

now....care to guess my ethnicity? hhhmmmmm????....

you know, i was trying to handle this privately man to man, hence my pm. but you would rather quote my pm here publicly to try and paint me as a racist or hypocrite. that's friggin' funny.

look, alexsmith, here's the deal. i don't think these fine people need to suffer any more with our little post/pm volley. i know i'm getting tired of it. so i will "respectfully" remove you from my buddy list and try and forge on with what i feel is the intent of this board and that is to share information, stories, constructive criticism/opinions. and if i'm way off-base with my ideals about this forum, then i will just have to wallow in my own naive ignorance.

sound like a plan, sport.

have a great one, everyone,

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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The Z is appealing. I got the coupe 'cause I wanted to take road trips and it was more practical for luggage space etc. The top comes off and inside posessions are secure from theft more than a convertable. I've heard horror stories about the rag tops getting sliced by a thief only to steal something stupid. I'll tell you right now, If you get the 6 speed and you feel that there isn't enough power, you're not using the gears right. I drop the tranny down into 3rd at 60 and stomp on it and the traction control light comes on the dash if the road has any moisture on it at all. I've even done this at the track on totally dry pavement. Any more power would allow you to gain more top speed, but aside from that, you'll just be restrained by the computers if you ask for any more than the tires can apply safely to the asphalt. Yes, once I get past 4th gear I could use a little more torque if I'm not doing 90. You just need to know where the sweet spot is on the tach.
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Does anyone believe that their opinions and statements are going to sway anyone that disagrees to their way of thinking?
Some time ago I made comments to the fact that this forum was different than any other forum of enthusiasts. No flames, personal confrontations, posturing egos, ect. Guess I spoke to soon. Not suprised , but dissapointed.
Why does Chevrolet make 3 different, but simular models? Different strokes for different folks.

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You're an idiot. I don't have 15-20k in mods, I bought all used cost effective stuff. You are probably some 70 year old guy that has nothing to do but argue on here. Oh, and you're stupid, the headers come with an X-pipe. There you go bringing up high cost parts. High flow cats off ebay are $45 a piece, not $300. You are probably not even for real. You are probably a poser that has a camaro instead of a Z.. Go back to the poser forums...
Hey I cleaned that up a bit for ya! ^^^^^^^

actually my Z pics are posted in numerous places in my posts feel free to look them up, and I'm 25 not 70.

Hey guys check out his mods

Vararam/ Borla Stingers/Tpis headers X-Pipe/3.73 Gears/MTI Stealth II Camshaft/ Forged Ls1 Internals 8.5:1 / Cartek 3X heads/ATI Procharger 10lbs/Stage 3clutch/ Ls1 edit tune

hmmm
Vararam $350
Borla $750
Headers $400
Gears $1000
Cam $400
Forged ls1 internals $2500
Cartek heads $2000
Procharger $7000
Clutch $1000
LS1 Edit $350

almost $15,000, maybe you could elaborate for us as to where you picked up this awesome setup for such discounted prices. I'm sure everyone here would be interested in how you can build a procharged forged ls1 for cheap. Why don't you post up some pictures and prices?

oh and shipped for ssauto chrome with x pipe is $617 dollars, plus $140 shipped for 2 high flow ebay cats, and still $300 for labor and welding.

still a little over $1000, but you make it sound like it's only $400, even with discounted parts it's still over $1000, unless you happen to own a lift and can weld and fabricate your own exhaust then you could get away with $757 which is still almost double $400.

Now I'm done commenting on this thread because it has gone to hell!

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You are a moron. I been on here since 04 and ur a newbie. I bought the car with already half the mods idiot. I did not pay 7000 for a procharger used i paid 4200 for it used . Thats what they cost new stupid. you keep throwing in the new cost. And cams run 325 from comp cams with my dicount. You are just out there throwing prices up in the air. I see your just here being a ***** to everyone thinking you know everything. I am a master auto tech and i do all the work myself and get huge dicounts through where i work. Why dont you look up gilbert chevrolet and u will see prices are 1/2 of what u will pay here for parts. YOU ARE STUCK ON YOUR SELF JUST BECASUE U GOT A CAR THAT SAYS Z06 YOU REMIND ME OF THE GUYS ON THE VIPER FORUMS THAT TALK CRAP. SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH IDIOT. YOU DNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME OR WHAT I HAVE SO SHUT IT.


AND SS AUTO CHROME HEADERS SHIPPED ARE 400.00 THROUGH REFURAL OF TSTAR ON THIS FORUMS IDIOT. YEA 600+ WOULD BE UR PRICE SINCE UR A MORON AND DESERVE TO BE RIPPED OFF. AND YOU DONT HAVE TO WELD THEM IDIOT. YEA YOU MUST OF GOT IT IN THE *** WITH 300 FOR THE MUFFLER SHOP.


YEA AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW TO GET FORGED INTERNAL LS1 PARTS FOR CHEAP PM ME. FORGED CRANK RODS AND PISTONS AND BEARING SET FOR UNDER 2000. THIS MORON ABOVE LIKES TO PAY RETAIL FOR EVERYTHING.

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I see a couple of members are very close to a 30 day vacation here.

NONE are better. They are simply Different

Get the one that's right for you and Enjoy
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