Six speed torque management?
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
Six speed torque management?
Is it true that C5 six speeds also have torque management from the factory? I thought only autos had that.
Thanks,
Clayton from Las Vegas
Thanks,
Clayton from Las Vegas
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any more info on what this does... Interesting.. for some reason it feels in 2nd gear like my clutch slips a little, but yet in first & third through 5th nothing slips... tried the stomping on it at low speed in 5th and pulls fine.. but for some reason something happens in 2nd.. could possibly be driver??
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If you say so. I sat there and watched my tuner edit the table using hp Tuner software. In my 2002 Z06 If you leave traction control on, and start spinning the car will adjust the spin and light up in the DIC AH/TC so not so sure what your saying works in all C5's. JMHO
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Torque Management is the act of pulling timing when a calculated
"MAX TORQUE" value of the drivetrain is being breached. Please don't confuse TM will all the other systems on a C5.
Active handling and Traction control are different systems, and not to be confused with Torque Management.
torque management on the 6 speed C5 is never activated unless the abuse mode is invoked (which you couldn't do that if you tried).
Here's the truth: yep; there is a TM table in the 6 speed PCM program.
here's the rest of the story... it's never activated. Timing is never "pulled" from the 6 speed by the TM system because it calculates a torque maximum value will be breached (it's pulled for other reasons ... like knock sensor detection; but this is not the "Torque management" system).
Just bucause the TM table (in a 6 speed C5 pcm ) is altered by a programmer... doesn't mean anything changes in the operation of the car.
If I find a "4 wheel drive" activation table in the C5 PCM... does it then have 4wd ???
Last edited by Mike Mercury; Aug 23, 2007 at 08:53 PM.
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I know this is a old thread but I think I'm having this issue with my 99frc. First time to the track with the new motor and clutch setup. Powershifted every gear and it feels like the car cuts out every time. Like its pulling timing or closing the throttle. I'm not lifting on the gas at all. This is on a mt drag radial. I know if the car didn't pause like this between shifts it would pickup a lot. What's the deal here?
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I know this is a old thread but I think I'm having this issue with my 99frc. First time to the track with the new motor and clutch setup. Powershifted every gear and it feels like the car cuts out every time. Like its pulling timing or closing the throttle. I'm not lifting on the gas at all. This is on a mt drag radial. I know if the car didn't pause like this between shifts it would pickup a lot. What's the deal here?
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Car had a 500 mile break in before it was tuned.Over 1500 on it now. Its not clutch slip at all. Its like the car just shuts off or pulls power for that split second on the power shift. Or like you lift off the throttle. And that didn't happen. Foot is flat on the floor soon as i launch. And no smell of clutch at all.
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Ive noticed my car at high rpm will cut out how you described when ive got a low tank of gas. Ive thought it could be little issues with my tune but its very rare and ive only noticed it with a low tank. Is it only when you power shift and into the next gear or just before the shift?
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Do you have the car in "competition mode"? Even when you turn traction control off, the active stability control is still in effect, and can take off timing if it feels the car is losing traction in 1 wheel, or detects yaw.
I personally keep stability control on, because it could save your butt if you start going sideways, but it could be causing what you're describing.
I personally keep stability control on, because it could save your butt if you start going sideways, but it could be causing what you're describing.
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Ive noticed my car at high rpm will cut out how you described when ive got a low tank of gas. Ive thought it could be little issues with my tune but its very rare and ive only noticed it with a low tank. Is it only when you power shift and into the next gear or just before the shift?
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Do you have the car in "competition mode"? Even when you turn traction control off, the active stability control is still in effect, and can take off timing if it feels the car is losing traction in 1 wheel, or detects yaw.
I personally keep stability control on, because it could save your butt if you start going sideways, but it could be causing what you're describing.
I personally keep stability control on, because it could save your butt if you start going sideways, but it could be causing what you're describing.
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End result is now as long as I'm either set in comp mode or TC/AH off its all good, I can power shift and roast the tires if I really want to. But if both TC/AH are on it will fall on its face when the tires start to break loose.
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I never noticed it on regular radials because the car just kills those. But at the track is when I noticed it on a drag radial. Talked to my tuner and he said we will have o take a look at it. Sounds like you had the same issue so we can look where you did .Thanks
