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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Ok, I readily admit it, I am not a gearhead, but I am preparing to have a cam/header/x-pipe/hiflow cats/tune package installed. One of the members of my local corvette club says I should also change out the LS1 heads on my 2000 Vert for some LS2 heads. He says they flow much better. I know the stock LS1 heads would be the bottleneck with my present configuration, but will stock LS2 heads be THAT big of an improvement? I can't afford any $2000 heads right now, and I know I can get some LS2 heads for around $500 or so. So what do you folks think? If the LS2's are worth it, I need to move fairly quickly, I will be taking the car down to England Green in about two weeks or so.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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I just recently upgraded my 2000 LS1 to LS2 heads with a "mild" cam- Also have headers and LS6 intake with P&P Throttle body- Doing the math- the extra 1500 dollars for better flowing heads would only yeild about 40 hp more than the 418 rwhp I have now- 37 dollars/hp your call-- good luck

Ps But make sure you spend the money where it will do the most good- timing chain upgrade- underdrive pulley (oh yeah-got one of those too) my next move is the rocker arms- going to yella terras- soon- tryinbg to bullet proof valve train-
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My car might be there at the same time. Stephen is installing his whiplash cam and putting in a larger up-dated intercooler. I wondered about higher flowing heads but I've read that with blown cars, this upgrade is less cost efficient than it would be w/NA. Which cam are you installing?
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My car might be there at the same time. Stephen is installing his whiplash cam and putting in a larger up-dated intercooler. I wondered about higher flowing heads but I've read that with blown cars, this upgrade is less cost efficient than it would be w/NA. Which cam are you installing?
I too am going with the whiplash cam, but won't be putting on a supercharger anytime soon. Just not sure if I should pony up the extra $500 for LS2 heads or not. Need some folks to lend some guidance here.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PVHolgado
I just recently upgraded my 2000 LS1 to LS2 heads with a "mild" cam- Also have headers and LS6 intake with P&P Throttle body- Doing the math- the extra 1500 dollars for better flowing heads would only yeild about 40 hp more than the 418 rwhp I have now- 37 dollars/hp your call-- good luck

Ps But make sure you spend the money where it will do the most good- timing chain upgrade- underdrive pulley (oh yeah-got one of those too) my next move is the rocker arms- going to yella terras- soon- tryinbg to bullet proof valve train-
Phil, I have a particular interest in Stan's thread here as I am wrestling with the same thing. Good analogy you put out here but what I would like to know is what was your cost for the LS2 heads/cam/pulley/chain and what was the HP increase from your base engine

Thanks in advance

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LS2 heads = LS6 heads.

They are the same old 243 castings as on the C5 Z06. The only difference is the LS2 doesn't have the lightweight hollow stem valves the Z06's had.

They are better flowing than the LS1 heads, and will bump up the compression slightly, so yes they are an improvement....but depending on your configuration and your goals, I would save up a bit for at the very least some ported GM heads rather than take the time and money to just bolt on a set of stock GM heads.

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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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i was in the same situation, being only 20 years old, i couldn't afford the nice, ported and polished aftermarket heads. All i knew was that I wanted to go faster. I found a REALLY REALLY good deal on some LS2 heads that made my decision for me. After putting them on, i already had the cam/headers/intake, i felt a reasonable amount of gain. Im happy with what i have for the money i spent, very happy. But I have not had it dynoed, which im not really a person to care about the numbers on a dyno, i judge my mods based on 1/4 mile track numbers.
I have yet to run it with this new setup, im waiting for cool weather!
by the way, your probably not going to get an extra 40 rwhp from aftermarket heads over LS2/LS6 stock heads, about 25-30 rwhp is the gain.

i think it spent overall $775 and that included:

LS2 heads with 450 miles (off 07 vette)
upgraded to a bigger cam-MTI G1 cam 228/232 .588/.575 114
asp underdrive pulley
160* thermo
all the gaskets and bolts and fluids

I got the heads for $265 shipped to my door from a forum member!!
what a great deal, thanks
Tyler
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Thanks Tyler, I appreciate the input, that helps me in my decision-making process. ~ Stan
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Unless your going to have them ported I myself wouldn't bother with the heads. The gain vs. cost and labor is not worth small increase in HP.
I put a set of LS6 heads on my 04 LS1 GTO and it was a lot of work for a 20hp or so gain. I would spend some money on some good porting before installing them.
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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
LS2 heads = LS6 heads.

They are the same old 243 castings as on the C5 Z06. The only difference is the LS2 doesn't have the lightweight hollow stem valves the Z06's had.

They are better flowing than the LS1 heads, and will bump up the compression slightly, so yes they are an improvement....but depending on your configuration and your goals, I would save up a bit for at the very least some ported GM heads rather than take the time and money to just bolt on a set of stock GM heads.

Yes it's an improvment, but vs the extra money for the heads and labor, I would just save up. Don't take this the wrong way, but heads are one thing you don't want to do half way...it's all or nothing... JMO I waited an extra year to do my heads cam so I could save up for some AFR's and I am glad I did,... with my heads/cam/headers I picked up 110RWHP on my 01coupe
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