Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Stock shifter quality

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 01:14 AM
  #1  
Goldfisher's Avatar
Goldfisher
Thread Starter
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: texas
Default Stock shifter quality

I just got my first C5 the other day a bone stock six-speed light pewter 00 convertible with 47.000 miles on it. My question is what do you guys think about the stock shifter. Is it that junky or is it just me. Yesterday after I thought I had gotten the hang of it I took a friend out for a demonstration. Talk about embarrasing not to mention down right hard on the equipment I missed fourth gear by down-shifting into second. Now I'm in no way a novice in the art of banging gears being 47 I've had a few fast cars over the years with standards and I haven't broke one yet. Any way the Vette survived my stupidity and it's okay but what about the quality of the stock shifter.

Last edited by Goldfisher; Oct 30, 2007 at 01:28 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:29 AM
  #2  
noahdr's Avatar
noahdr
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 2
From: New Bern NC
Default

Well congrats on the new car and not breaking it yet. A lot of people are upgrading to the new C6 shifter but I'm not sure if that'll help you make it into the right gear. Good luck with the car and try to take it easy on her until you get used to it.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 05:03 AM
  #3  
eldudereno's Avatar
eldudereno
Racer
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 435
Likes: 1
From: Newcastle, UK
Default

I've got the B+M Shifter on my Z06 which is very notchy. Am going to go for the 2008 C6 shifter which appears to be much smoother. The throw is longer but I'm sure I can cope with that.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 07:03 AM
  #4  
AlisonC5's Avatar
AlisonC5
Pro
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 676
Likes: 2
From: Amherst VA
Default

stock shifter is OK, nothing special. mine likes to get stuck when I'm trying to downshift. ticks me off sometimes! I hear changing your tranny fluid to a good synthetic oil may make shifting easier.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:44 AM
  #5  
stormrider's Avatar
stormrider
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,400
Likes: 3
From: Sarasota Florida
Default

Replace your trannie, dif and clutch fluid (a C6Z06 shifter helps a lot too).
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:45 AM
  #6  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 367,675
Likes: 24,666
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '25
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

I've not had any real problems with my stock shifter, but a number of owners have put in the C6 shifter and reported that the shifting is much better. Might be an option if you don't care for the stock one.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:27 AM
  #7  
Independent1's Avatar
Independent1
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,799
Likes: 1
From: Northern Virginia
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

The stock shifter sucks. What you need to do is buy an C6 Z06 shifter from the GMPARTWAREHOUSE (Gene) who is a forum sponsor and do the anti-venom mod, which will reduce the tension of the detente bolt for the shifting rod.

Look here for more info.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1464382
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:47 AM
  #8  
cjcvette's Avatar
cjcvette
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 167
Likes: 6
From: DFW Texas
Default

If you missed 4th and shifted into 2nd instead, perhaps someone already did the antivenom mod. I currently have the stock shifter (with no antivenom mod) and going from 3rd to second is no accident.

My C6Z shifter in in the mail though. Can't wait.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:51 AM
  #9  
Aprilia1's Avatar
Aprilia1
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 287
Likes: 2
From: Bay Area California
Default Stock shifter quality

The stock shifter is just that and actually more. Yes, it has a stamped steel base and no trick bushing at the pivot point. But, it seems to have been designed to please a variety of different drivers certainly not all of us. You can replace with a multitude of short-throw aftermarket products or the C6Z06 shifter (same construction just a bit shorter shaft with a slight bend). I chose to cut down and re-welded my stock unit. Properly lubricated and adjusted it works well for my needs and most importantly makes no noise whatsoever. There are a number of post on this forum addressing the adjustment procedure.

As to the missed shift, take a look at the Owner's Manual which explains the logic used in the shifter assembly. The spring loading of the unit allows the shifter to "center" itself over the gates for 3rd and 4th gears respectively. If you don't overpower the lever and allow the springs to do their job the shifter will transition into 3rd and 4th gears in either direction. At least it works for me that way. Trust this is helpful.

A1
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:58 AM
  #10  
Zenak's Avatar
Zenak
Terminal Vette Addict
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,634
Likes: 46
From: Philly PA
Default

If you want to feel ike you are driving a race car with hard heavy throws.. the HURST is a decent shoice.

BUT personally I love the new ZO6 for C6 shifter. SHort throws, easy to push/pull.. OEM reliable and easy to install with no car experience... and the price is right from Gene ar GMPartshouse.com

I did it, never went back.. LIke driving a new car. SHould be everyone first MOD for C5, followed by the intake.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:41 PM
  #11  
Goldfisher's Avatar
Goldfisher
Thread Starter
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: texas
Default

Thank's for all the help guys it's really appreciated. The main problem probably is the nut behind the wheel after all. I sold my 96 Mustang GT a few weeks ago after driving it for ten years with a after market shifter. I may have developed some bad habits with it over the years that need to be broke. So I'll just drive the Vette some more before I make any more drag-runs in it.
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:49 PM
  #12  
Dave68's Avatar
Dave68
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 19,304
Likes: 85
From: San Diego CA
Default

I've read many times (in car magazines) that the C6/Z06 shifter is still not as precise as the best shifters out there. Therfore, I've come to the conclusion that the best shifter may be a combination of a super short throw BPP, Hurst, or B&M + a variation of the antivenom mod, whereas a washer is installed to lighten the detent force. I will test this theory when I do the washer mod next month, since I already have half of the equation (super short-throw BPP).
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:59 PM
  #13  
mqqn's Avatar
mqqn
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,788
Likes: 6
From: Winchester TN
Cruise-In III Veteran
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'11
Default

Hi Goldfisher -

The stock shifter is ok - and missed shifts with it are not likely the shifters fault (as you already have surmised...)

That said, the stock shifter has a little more travel than I prefer, and it also has a rubber isolator bushing in the shift shaft that adds some flexibility to the shifts, but also isolates your hand from the mechanical gnashing that is a tremec 6 speed.

Some people replace the shifter with a true billet aftermarket shifter, such as a Breathless Performance unit, a B&M, a Hurst etc. These are hard-core, and are not for everyone. They transmit a significant amount of mechanical noise into the cabin and can be very notchy to use - and require more force to execute a shift.

The benefit is, however, rapid and positive gear changes on a drag strip. I like that and run a BPP in my Z06.

Others choose the new C6 Z06 shifter, that still has a isolator, yet is shorter shifting. This is a nice compromise that will provide shorter shifts but still have that OEM GM "polish" to it.

However - neither solution will prevent missed shifts.

best regards -

mqqn

Last edited by mqqn; Oct 31, 2007 at 12:01 AM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Stock shifter quality





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:36 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-1
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE