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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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I just bought my 2002 EB ZO6 and the guy was supposed to give me two keys and fobs. As we were inside finishing up the paperwork and I ask for the second key and fob he says they are out in the glove compartment, he has been very straight up with me so far so I don't give it a second thought. Later I get home, no where near where I bought the car btw, and find no extra key/fob. I check the interior of the car top to bottom a number of times over the next day or two since my phone call to him results in him saying he was pretty sure they were both in there and he would check his garage etc. and let me know if he finds them. I am not holding my breath so figure I would just buy a new key and fob from chevy. I don't like the thought of only having one key for my car, a backup is always a good idea. That is when I called the local Chevy place that usually has the best prices and got this response.

New key = $40
New fob = $65

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Programming for both done at the same time = $152
Total =$257 with tax $280

Ok, I really want another key, but I REALLY don't want to pay $280 bucks for one. Is there an easier route than this?
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Yea, hopefully the previous owner stumbles on the other fob/key for you Vette..in the very near future..Too bad it wasn't a dealer, my FRC only had one fob/key, so in the contract I added a WEO to order a new Key Fob and Key, 2 weeks later it arrived...That sucks..
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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i bought a fob off ebay....very reputable seller, (i actually have bought 3 from him, 1 for vette, 2 for tahoe),,,cost me 18 shipped, came with instructions on programming, 50th aniv key from local chev dealer with the right vats code, costs 35 cut and ready to go
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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If you grew up on the other side of the tracks, you would know how to hot-wire any car.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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I agree the FOB's on that auction site are cheap and come with programming instructions, also do a search and you will find out how. As for the key it will be about ~$40. Press the seller to see if they will replace the extra set.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Found 821 GM key fobs on eBay, down to like 7 bucks. None I looked at seem to mention programming though. Is that an aftermarket one or something? Most of the ones look like you would still have to hit up GM for the 152 dollars to program the key and fob. They said they do it at the same time.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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I bought a brand new set for the C5 actually the same as many other GM cars just verify the numbers on the back. I programmed the new two and added the third that was beat up, I use that one all the time.

This is how to train them, the car will walk you through it.

Fob Programming
1-Turn the ignition to RUN
2-Turn the radio off
3-Press the RESET button in order to clear any IPC warning messages
4-Press the Option button on the DIC until the IPC display is blank in order to enter the program mode
5-Press and hold the Reset button for 3 seconds
6-Press the option button until FOB Training message is displayed
7-Press the Reset button in order to begin the programming sequence.
8-Simultaneously press and hold the lock an unlock buttons on the first transmitter for 12 seconds. The IPC will indicate when that transmitter is programmed and when to proceed to the next. Repeat this step for each transmitter.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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Part numbers on the back of FOB this is the important part. My wifes Grand AM use the same remotes but that car does not have the built in ability to reprogram.

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25695954
KOBLEAR1XT

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25695955
KOBLEAR1XT
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I bought a spare FOB from E-Bay. I believe the FOB programming instructions are right there in the owner's manual.
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Found the area in the manual on programing the fob. I wonder what the 152 dollar charge is from the service dept at the chevy dealership? Is that to set the little resistor pellet in the key or something? 152 bucks to put in or change a 50 cent resistor, ouch. Going to pick up one of the fobs off ebay now so at least I can open the car if I lock my keys inside. Probably should get a few at the low prices in there since I can program them myself. Guess the dealership charge thing must be for the key resistor pellet. Thanks for the information guys.

I was also happy when looking on eBay to find the tire inflation kits for sale in their original wrappers for only $69 bucks. I had looked at lot of ZO6's before I bought this one and not one still had that kit in there. Apparently people figure they are really useful and just hold onto them when they sell or turn in the cars from lease. Nice price for some peace of mind.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Kinda amazing how these little issues that may slip our mind can really add up.

I have added TWO keys/fob to my checklist for future cars...


Front bumper license plate insert..$125 not painted

Tire repair kit factory, $400

among other things...
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaxian
I wonder what the 152 dollar charge is from the service dept at the chevy dealership? Is that to set the little resistor pellet in the key or something? 152 bucks to put in or change a 50 cent resistor, ouch. Going to pick up one of the fobs off ebay now so at least I can open the car if I lock my keys inside. Probably should get a few at the low prices in there since I can program them myself. Guess the dealership charge thing must be for the key resistor pellet. Thanks for the information guys.
It is the classic stealership charges, excessively high prices for very little work. As for the pellet, GM keeps blanks of every code (if I remember correctly about 15-16 of them) they will want your old key to stick in the machine and get the resistance then they just pull the correct blank for that resistance of the shelf and cut it. You can find the blanks on flea bay but you need to know the resistance. You can measure it with a meter.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Here are the values for the pellet:

Key# Value (Ohms)
1 392
2 523
3 681
4 887
5 1130
6 1470
7 1870
8 2370
9 3010
10 3740
11 4750
12 6040
13 7500
14 9530
15 11800
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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I got an extra key at Chevy for I think $35 and he programmed it free. I bought a FOB off ebay for $15 and set it myself.

$152? Thats ripping off big time!
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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As far as I know, there is no programming of the key. You measure the resistance of your key and order one with the same resistance. You then get the key cut at any locksmith and you are good to go. $10-15 for the fob and $30-35 for the key. I need to buy me a Dealership. That is so lame if they want your business for the future, Don't you think? What happened to just good service and keeping a future customer happy by just not being so overboard on everything? Maybe like, "No problem. We can get you the fob and key and we'll program it for you for free since it only takes a couple of minutes."
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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I just talked to another dealership about this. I already ordered the 2 fob set with the same numbers as the one I have off eBay and since I can program those myself I just needed the key. This other Chevy dealership just said, the key was $48 dollars, he would measure the resistance in the key I had and just order one that was the same. So I didn't need to do anything but go and order it up. That saved some money on the $280 dollar thing. Ends up being like $50 for a correct key, he said they use my VIN to send the right cut and pellet and $18 for two fobs. So $68 dollars total and I get an extra fob, much better than $280.

The next trick was I looked for the locking lugnut key and found it missing, big surprise. Chevy sells a kit that has four new locknuts and the key nut for them for $50, so not too bad. The gotcha was I asked how they get the old locknuts off, he was like the service dept does it and they charge $100 bucks (I am guessing thats min shop time). I found Sears has a locknut/stripped nut removal tool in their catalog for $30 dollars. So think I will just save that $70 dollars and having to make a service appointment, which they said I had to do, and just remove them myself. Man dealerships have a great scam going for people who don't want to go search stuff out for themselves. Thanks for all the help guys. I printed that key resistor info too, never know when that will come in handy.

The next trick is to see if the service dept will pull up my service history and give me a printout. I want to know if the CLB factory recall fix was done without crawling under my dash and removing panels and if there are any other surprises. I hear most dealerships are cool with divulging service histories so I hope I don't run into one of those Atilla the Hun service dept guys who fights everyone on everything. Thanks again for the info.
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The next trick was I looked for the locking lugnut key and found it missing, big surprise. Chevy sells a kit that has four new locknuts and the key nut for them for $50, so not too bad. The gotcha was I asked how they get the old locknuts off, he was like the service dept does it and they charge $100 bucks (I am guessing thats min shop time). I found Sears has a locknut/stripped nut removal tool in their catalog for $30 dollars. So think I will just save that $70 dollars and having to make a service appointment, which they said I had to do, and just remove them myself. Man dealerships have a great scam going for people who don't want to go search stuff out for themselves. Thanks for all the help guys. I printed that key resistor info too, never know when that will come in handy.

The next trick is to see if the service dept will pull up my service history and give me a printout. I want to know if the CLB factory recall fix was done without crawling under my dash and removing panels and if there are any other surprises. I hear most dealerships are cool with divulging service histories so I hope I don't run into one of those Atilla the Hun service dept guys who fights everyone on everything. Thanks again for the info.
Does yours have locking lugs, mine did not but the previous owner might have removed them. As for the recalls GM fixes do not work, I would install the CLB from Corvette's of Houston or similar vendor. I have been stuck twice relying on GM recalls or should I say fail-calls. Ever since I installed the CLB I have been trouble free. Also on the key GM will tell you the code 1-15 and I took a carbide dremel tip and etched it into the metal portion so I can remember it if I need it in an emergency. Made it real small you have to know what you are looking for to even see it.
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I just bought my 2002 EB ZO6 and the guy was supposed to give me two keys and fobs. As we were inside finishing up the paperwork and I ask for the second key and fob he says they are out in the glove compartment, he has been very straight up with me so far so I don't give it a second thought. Later I get home, no where near where I bought the car btw, and find no extra key/fob. I check the interior of the car top to bottom a number of times over the next day or two since my phone call to him results in him saying he was pretty sure they were both in there and he would check his garage etc. and let me know if he finds them. I am not holding my breath so figure I would just buy a new key and fob from chevy. I don't like the thought of only having one key for my car, a backup is always a good idea. That is when I called the local Chevy place that usually has the best prices and got this response.

New key = $40
New fob = $65

Service dept says:
Programming for both done at the same time = $152
Total =$257 with tax $280

Ok, I really want another key, but I REALLY don't want to pay $280 bucks for one. Is there an easier route than this?

I sold a 325 CIC BMW a few years ago and I had lost the extra key and fob. Drove me crazy as to where I put it. I found it about a year later and luckily I had saved the new owner info, sent it on to her and felt much better about myself. The replacement cost for these were close to $500 bucks. GM keys and fob are a bargain as is everything else about the Z06 verses BMW's, Porsches, Mercedes, Ferraris, etc.....bottom line the Z06 is a great value!!

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I order the FOB from ebay for like $20 bucks, went to locksmith after finding out the resistance on the one key I had, paid $22 bucks for key and cutting and spare door key. Reprogrammed my self. Only thing, when I got the ebay FOB, it was numbered "1" like the one I had. I think you can get a different one that says "2" so you can keep yours and your wifes separated for the memory settings. Skip the stealership route.
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streetkeys.com has an easy chart for reading the resistance
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