Flat Tire - Non Run Flats
Here are a couple of pics of my jack I bought for $6. It is filthy so look past that

Here is a pic of the jack under the car. There is at least 4 inches between the rocker arm and the top of the jack. It will fit under the car even if both tires are flat.

Thanks for the input everyone. It looks like I will hit the local junkyard first (I will paint mine if I get one
) and then Wallyworld. Grzldvt: Do you still need a hockey puck with your jack, or will that top piece fit into the jack point ok without one?
I don't carry a jack, and I've had to make a couple of emergency plug repairs on the road. I'm sure someone will enlighten me here, but I can't see the need for a jack. Carry a compressor and plug kit. As long as the rim seal is intact, you can get enough air in the tire to roll it around to a servicable position. It appears to me that if you need a jack, you've got a more serious problem and will end up on a flatbead. I hope that never happens.
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my screw was on the inside of the front tire, very difficult to get to and work on without laying on the ground underneath an already low car. Right then and there I decided to get a jack, so I could pull the wheel off.
Just made life a lot easier to pull the tire off and work on it standing up.
For me, the absolute worst conditions for getting a flat, is on Sunday night in the rain on an expressway at 10 PM, where you are 1/2 mile from the any exit. No way am I driving the distance to get off, nor do I relish laying on the ground on an expressway situation. Chances are very slim there is anyone around to patch it for me until Monday AM.
Prepare for that situation. Chances are very high it will never happen, since nails/screws are generally slow leaks, but there is no guarantee.
Heck, I have only had two flat tires in the last ten years. Fortunately one of them was at home. I decided to try patching it and discovered, having a just a simple cheap patch kit and compressor was woefully inadequate. I would not have been able to fix the tire and been screwed. I had no way of getting the nail out of the tire, which is why I added pliers and screwdrivers to my kit. The head was completely gone and I had no way of getting the shaft out of the tire. It had gone in deep enough to cause a leak. Had a heck of time just finding it, let alone getting it out.
All the tools in my kit are there due to experience in fixing a flat in the field.
Make sense?
I have had to fix a flat in a parking lot... no fun without a jack.
I wrote this Tech Tip up many moons ago
Non Run Flat Tire Repair Kit
That's what I did,put a air pump and a plug kit and go.The frame is so stiff that it will lift the whole side of the car up. It helps that I have coil overs as my wheel travel is limited.
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my screw was on the inside of the front tire, very difficult to get to and work on without laying on the ground underneath an already low car. Right then and there I decided to get a jack, so I could pull the wheel off.
Just made life a lot easier to pull the tire off and work on it standing up.
For me, the absolute worst conditions for getting a flat, is on Sunday night in the rain on an expressway at 10 PM, where you are 1/2 mile from the any exit. No way am I driving the distance to get off, nor do I relish laying on the ground on an expressway situation. Chances are very slim there is anyone around to patch it for me until Monday AM.
Prepare for that situation. Chances are very high it will never happen, since nails/screws are generally slow leaks, but there is no guarantee.
Heck, I have only had two flat tires in the last ten years. Fortunately one of them was at home. I decided to try patching it and discovered, having a just a simple cheap patch kit and compressor was woefully inadequate. I would not have been able to fix the tire and been screwed. I had no way of getting the nail out of the tire, which is why I added pliers and screwdrivers to my kit. The head was completely gone and I had no way of getting the shaft out of the tire. It had gone in deep enough to cause a leak. Had a heck of time just finding it, let alone getting it out.
All the tools in my kit are there due to experience in fixing a flat in the field.
Make sense?
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I've personally seen the damage some of these clowns can inflict on a car with much more ground clearance than a C5 when I needed towing on a business rental.
Yeah, yeah that's what business insurance is for but do you really want all that hassle due to a flat? If so, go for it.
After all that's what the majority of auto "non-enthusiasts" would do.
Also, if you don't have the more costly AAA Plus you will only be towed to the nearest AAA 'approved' center whether you like them and their business reputation and pricing or not. AAA Plus gives you up to 100 miles to your choice of destination.
Personally, since the OP is "planning a trip to the west coast next summer and need(s) extra insurance" my best suggestion would be to get runflats as even AAA Plus would probably offer no additional benefit.



To each,, their own,,,and no disrespect intentend,,,but the road noise, handling and ride comfort of the run flats are no good trade off for the "peace of mind" afforded! My car is WAY better in the aforementioned areas with my new non runflat tires than my old Eagle EMTs. I don't care if I have to fix a flat every six months for the rest of my life! The times between those flats without RUNCRAPS will more than make up for it!
My $00.02
Food for thought as this is rarely ever considered in these threads.
The handling, ride and control, for normal daily driving is simply a big improvement IMO, that the carrying of a few items for tire repair is well worth it. In my case it has nothing to do with the cost of tires, or convenience and everything to do with improving my driving experience.
We all have different ideas/views of why we own these cars. I definitely respect that. Changing to a different performance tire with wider capabilities has made an improvement for what I was looking for.
I am incredibly easy on my cars, I don't beat them or race them, but I appreciate the moment that I decide I want to stretch the car's capabilities that I can get a bit more out of it than most.
What convinced me to stay with a non RF, was a parade lap at Laguna Seca. Many people let the crowd get out in front of them and cranked in the corners. I followed a guy with RF's, and he had a heck of time keeping his car under control, and I was all over him, and had absolutely no issues, in fact I felt I could have passed him, I had that much left in my KD's.
I rarely use it, but when I do, I want it to be there.
Your mileage and opinions may vary.
Last edited by Grzldvt; Dec 28, 2007 at 05:49 PM.
I am restoring a BMW 633 with tires of the same vintage and I can tell in the rain and under some harder turns and hard braking, they are not as good as when I first picked the car up four years ago.
But for normal day to day driving they work for me.













