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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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same year, no mods, same model. good drivers. what 1/4 mile numbers will the M6 run vs A4? did a quick search. no luck...........anyone?
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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this was my first ever question. unfortunatley i dont remember the answer because that was over 5 years ago. i think the mn6 is a couple tenths of a second faster.
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The edge would have to go to the M6, all things being equal which they usually are not. The A4 is better suited for 1/4 mile drag racing than the M6 because they launch more consistently. The M6 misses one shift and the A4 will clean its clock.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
The edge would have to go to the M6, all things being equal which they usually are not. The A4 is better suited for 1/4 mile drag racing than the M6 because they launch more consistently. The M6 misses one shift and the A4 will clean its clock.
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The edge would have to go to the M6, all things being equal which they usually are not. The A4 is better suited for 1/4 mile drag racing than the M6 because they launch more consistently. The M6 misses one shift and the A4 will clean its clock.
thats why i used the clause" good drivers". last time i drove a stick it was a 6.0 gto. embarassed myself. i'll stick to shifting my bike. i'm great at that.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by germanc5
thats why i used the clause" good drivers". last time i drove a stick it was a 6.0 gto. embarassed myself. i'll stick to shifting my bike. i'm great at that.
This is a "hot button" issue on this forum, but facts are facts. If you are good at grabbing gears in competitive driving situations, then the M6 is what you want. Most people can't shift as fast or consistently than an automatic transmission can for you on a 1/4 mile drag. Now road racing is different story. The M6 is better suited for that task.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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I had my 01 mn6 at the track last summer. This was my first time out. Best I could do was 12.6!

The mn6 is much harder to launch. It takes some practice.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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From racing online on my 360 (yes, i'm 14) on Forza 2, I asked the same question. They said they usually go for the Manual because you can downshift into turns while keeping high revs for a steady acceleration out of the turn. That's good for tracking.

For drag racing if all things were equal, the Manual would have a better chance because I think the Auto shifts just a tad earlier than the Manual. However, most things aren't always equal, so the Auto would probably have a better launch than a Manual.....but of course, everyone has already told you that. O_O
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If both cars had the same final drive ratio - I think the edge has to go to the A4. Maybe - just maybe the MN6 driver could get lucky, cut a better light and hit the shift points perfectly for one run, but as someone previously mentioned - the A4 will be much more consistent.

On a road course, I think the MN6 will be faster - again all things being equal.
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Magazine(motor trend, automobile, road and track, etc.) testers usually reported the following numbers for stock cars.

A4 with 2.73 = 0-60 in 5.2 / quarter in 13.5
A4 with 3.15 = 0-60 in 5.0 / quarter in 13.2
MN6 = 0-60 in 4.7 / quarter in 13.0

Of course a great deal of this depends on driver and conditions. I've seen all of these numbers higher and I've seen all of these numbers lower.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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All things equal the edge should always go to the manual because automatics put less power to the ground due to their transmission.
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As with all racing, the better driver will win.
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Originally Posted by C.5
All things equal the edge should always go to the manual because automatics put less power to the ground due to their transmission.
How fast you will accelerate with a M6 is an direct result of the skill of the driver. Most drivers don't have the skill to shift as quickly as an automatic can. The difference in the transmissions has no bearing with how much power it can put to the ground, per se but rather how much HP/TQ is lost in the driveline (the automatic being a more complex system than the manual) All in all, as I have said before, all things being equal, the M6 gets the edge but only slightly.
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Very interesting article on this very subject. Draw your own conclusions http://www.kitcarmag.com/techarticle...ech/index.html
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Another good article
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
How fast you will accelerate with a M6 is an direct result of the skill of the driver. Most drivers don't have the skill to shift as quickly as an automatic can. The difference in the transmissions has no bearing with how much power it can put to the ground, per se but rather how much HP/TQ is lost in the driveline (the automatic being a more complex system than the manual) All in all, as I have said before, all things being equal, the M6 gets the edge but only slightly.
Yep, drivetrain loss was the word that I was looking for
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Originally Posted by Chemdawg99
With the article. If you want to FEEL the power in a sports car Manual is the way to go imho!
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Originally Posted by Icewind Dale
With the article. If you want to FEEL the power in a sports car Manual is the way to go imho!
Its a matter of what you want out of your application. I feel the power of my A4 just fine. I have bad knees and a manual is great, but not practical for me.
Autos have come a long way in the last 15-20 years and the "perfomance penalty" associated with autos, while real, are not as great as the defenders of manuals would have people think. The acceleration difference between the two is only a few tenths of a second different, all things being equal. Of course, in a competitive driving situation, that could be the difference between winning and losing
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