This is why the paint color didn't match your car.
#21
Le Mans Master
I would respectfully disagree....
If by tri-coat you are referring to the multi stage paint with tint in the clear coat(such as millenium yellow and a few other premium paints),sure that's even more difficult.
But a fellow I know who paints and matches bumpers on cars all day long,that's all he does day in and day out, stated he has the worst time with white than most any other color.
That doesn't sound like a piece of cake to me
If by tri-coat you are referring to the multi stage paint with tint in the clear coat(such as millenium yellow and a few other premium paints),sure that's even more difficult.
But a fellow I know who paints and matches bumpers on cars all day long,that's all he does day in and day out, stated he has the worst time with white than most any other color.
That doesn't sound like a piece of cake to me
#22
If anyone's interested...
Automotive paint companies produce "variant" color formulas when they determine there is a need for one. An example would be, body shops would contact thier paint manfacturer for a possible variants because the prime formula is not a blendable match. There are even paint reps out there that ask body men to cut out licence plate size pieces of of damaged panels so the rep can send them to the paint manfacturers color lab to determine if there is a need for a variant. There are some color codes that end up with 2-6 or more variants.
These days, paint techs know that time is money and they are taught that in order to match the color, they need to blend the adjacent panel/s in order to trick the eye into telling the brain that the color is a perfect match.
If a customer demands that only one panel be refinished, the shop will usually charge extra because the tech needs extra time to produce a "spray out card", determine if the color is a "butt match" then tint the color as necessary. After all that, the tech needs to do another spray out card. Oh by the way, after shooting the base coat color on the card, he has to mix a batch of clearcoat and spray over the basecoat before determining color match. A few tools needed to determine color match is to bring the car and the spray out card outside in the sunlight. Proper color match is always determined in the sunlight. Another tool in the technicians tool box is a sun gun (similar to a hand held spotlight) that puts out a bright white light that is sunlight corrected so the tech doesnt have to determine color match out side. This procedure is repeated until it's a perfect match.
In my opnion, black is the easiest color to match and white is one of the most difficult colors to match... Then there's tri-coat. When tri-coat colors first came out, the procedure was to refinish the entire side of the car for color match. Not an easy job if only the fender was repaired or replaced. If any one is interested, tri-coat is a 3 product color that is: 1)base coat color 2) a tinted translucent or mica (pearl) mid-coat, then 3rd, the clearcoat, hence "tri-coat"
These days, paint techs know that time is money and they are taught that in order to match the color, they need to blend the adjacent panel/s in order to trick the eye into telling the brain that the color is a perfect match.
If a customer demands that only one panel be refinished, the shop will usually charge extra because the tech needs extra time to produce a "spray out card", determine if the color is a "butt match" then tint the color as necessary. After all that, the tech needs to do another spray out card. Oh by the way, after shooting the base coat color on the card, he has to mix a batch of clearcoat and spray over the basecoat before determining color match. A few tools needed to determine color match is to bring the car and the spray out card outside in the sunlight. Proper color match is always determined in the sunlight. Another tool in the technicians tool box is a sun gun (similar to a hand held spotlight) that puts out a bright white light that is sunlight corrected so the tech doesnt have to determine color match out side. This procedure is repeated until it's a perfect match.
In my opnion, black is the easiest color to match and white is one of the most difficult colors to match... Then there's tri-coat. When tri-coat colors first came out, the procedure was to refinish the entire side of the car for color match. Not an easy job if only the fender was repaired or replaced. If any one is interested, tri-coat is a 3 product color that is: 1)base coat color 2) a tinted translucent or mica (pearl) mid-coat, then 3rd, the clearcoat, hence "tri-coat"
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If I'm interpreting all these posts correctly...the BC/CC "U XXXX" code on the Service Parts Identification label located in the glove box would not be the correct code to tell my body man?
http://www.automotivetouchup.com/gmlabel.htm
http://www.automotivetouchup.com/gmlabel.htm
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Ask him to have the paint store scan the predominant color of the car, then they will mix the new paint to that tint, and everything will match.
It's really that simple today!
john
It's really that simple today!
john
#25
Vette Dan
I disagree. MSG had 7 diff. shades and it also depends on how the metal flake lays in the paint. My paint guy reshot the front bumper six times.
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If I'm interpreting all these posts correctly...the BC/CC "U XXXX" code on the Service Parts Identification label located in the glove box would not be the correct code to tell my body man?
http://www.automotivetouchup.com/gmlabel.htm
http://www.automotivetouchup.com/gmlabel.htm
#27
Paint jobbers(paint stores) have tools to identify colors on vehicles. These computerized paint matching tools are called spectrophotometers. They provide the tech with a "blendable match formula". This means the tech must blend the adjcent panel/s for color match.
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Drifting
Exactly what I was told about my 04 MSG. Had my headlight bucket lid painted by two shops and it's close but still doesn't match. They each shot it several times. Guess i'll just live with it. Chuck