This is why the paint color didn't match your car.
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This is why the paint color didn't match your car.
I bought a 2004 Coupe, Arctic White with a glass top. I bought a red top and took it to get it painted. This guy is really top notch and does alot of vettes and muscle cars. I ask him about painting my front tag because it has a slight blue tint to it and didn't look right. The color was just off a little.
We went into the shop and he pulled up acrtic white and it gave him 7 different color codes for the same paint. He then pulled the paint chips out of a file and we walked out to my car. One of the paint chips matched my tag and another of the chips matched my car. This guy does his own paint there at the shop so he can control this mass confusion.
This does not make sense to me. How does anyone get a car painted the right color?
So if you go to the average paint and body shop, he goes to a supplier with your paint code and comes back with 1 formula out of who knows how many for that color and hopes for the best, I guess.
We went into the shop and he pulled up acrtic white and it gave him 7 different color codes for the same paint. He then pulled the paint chips out of a file and we walked out to my car. One of the paint chips matched my tag and another of the chips matched my car. This guy does his own paint there at the shop so he can control this mass confusion.
This does not make sense to me. How does anyone get a car painted the right color?
So if you go to the average paint and body shop, he goes to a supplier with your paint code and comes back with 1 formula out of who knows how many for that color and hopes for the best, I guess.
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I bought a 2004 Coupe, Arctic White with a glass top. I bought a red top and took it to get it painted. This guy is really top notch and does alot of vettes and muscle cars. I ask him about painting my front tag because it has a slight blue tint to it and didn't look right. The color was just off a little.
We went into the shop and he pulled up acrtic white and it gave him 7 different color codes for the same paint. He then pulled the paint chips out of a file and we walked out to my car. One of the paint chips matched my tag and another of the chips matched my car. This guy does his own paint there at the shop so he can control this mass confusion.
This does not make sense to me. How does anyone get a car painted the right color?
So if you go to the average paint and body shop, he goes to a supplier with your paint code and comes back with 1 formula out of who knows how many for that color and hopes for the best, I guess.
We went into the shop and he pulled up acrtic white and it gave him 7 different color codes for the same paint. He then pulled the paint chips out of a file and we walked out to my car. One of the paint chips matched my tag and another of the chips matched my car. This guy does his own paint there at the shop so he can control this mass confusion.
This does not make sense to me. How does anyone get a car painted the right color?
So if you go to the average paint and body shop, he goes to a supplier with your paint code and comes back with 1 formula out of who knows how many for that color and hopes for the best, I guess.
A high end shop will start with the basic paint code,and adjust from there,shooting different formulas.Once the chip formula is recorded,it is matched to the subject paint for a sound match.Which could include a milkier or muddier version,a bluer version and so on.
It is not as easy as it could or should be...Now if your painting the entire car,you of course would have no worries.Patching and blending are their own animal
Fwiw, I have heard white is the hardest color to match...
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When I had my targa top painted they computer matched my paint to the roof bow. Turned out to be a perfect match to a 98 Isuzu silver?!? Who can tell? I would just suggest always getting a computer match. Silver is one of the hardest colors to match and mine came out absolutely perfect.
#5
Last time I went to get paint, they asked for both the paint code and the VIN....they must have some records of the paint variances from the factory or something....anyway the paint was a perfect match.
#6
Saw a custom El Camino a year ago that was painted to perfection and looked GREAT in the shop. One sunny Saturday we rolled it outside and it turned dark chocolate brown. PPG admitted having tint problems and paid for the repaint.
#7
Team Owner
That is why I went with BLACK there is no shade variences or pigment changes between any BLACK colors!
Plain and simple BLACK is BLACK!
I must admitt though that I wanted the CE blue color, that is an awesome color!
Thanks,Matt
Plain and simple BLACK is BLACK!
I must admitt though that I wanted the CE blue color, that is an awesome color!
Thanks,Matt
#9
Melting Slicks
When matching paint on a new hood for example, what do they do about the orange peel? Wouldn't it be obvious when such a big piece doesn't have orange peel in it?
#10
Team Owner
If the painter is really good, and uses the proper gun with the right air tip, he'll get the factory "orange peel".
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The best place to match color is outside in the sun. Different types of lights will give a different hint of color. Incadescent compared to flourescent will almost be a totally different color. The sun is the only light that has the entire spectrum of color and only way to get a proper color match.
#12
Le Mans Master
I have black also,and there are just as many variances for black as many other colors
I know this from first hand experience
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yellow is a whole new can of worms!!!
its not as much about matching the paint EXACT as it is to blend out the paint into the other panels. a good painted will get a good match just based on how he/she sprays and blends. blending is the only really RIGHT way to paint something on a vehicle.
its not as much about matching the paint EXACT as it is to blend out the paint into the other panels. a good painted will get a good match just based on how he/she sprays and blends. blending is the only really RIGHT way to paint something on a vehicle.
#17
Drifting
I have seen some blacks that had a brownish tint or muddy look to them Paint is just be a PIA to match. Even some brand new cars right out of the factory can have mis-matched colors. Especially the plastic/urathane bumbers. A lot of time the bumpers are painted at one facility and shipped for final assembly at another plant that painted the body. The only way around this is to use the same batch of paint to do the entire car. If you notice, the bumbers or other plastic parts even fade differently in the sun.
#18
Drifting
yellow is a whole new can of worms!!!
its not as much about matching the paint EXACT as it is to blend out the paint into the other panels. a good painted will get a good match just based on how he/she sprays and blends. blending is the only really RIGHT way to paint something on a vehicle.
its not as much about matching the paint EXACT as it is to blend out the paint into the other panels. a good painted will get a good match just based on how he/she sprays and blends. blending is the only really RIGHT way to paint something on a vehicle.
#19
Melting Slicks
Same thing here & my painter had to "custom" match it anyway. Once he did, he documented the formula for future needs like maggie hoods.......