[Z06] 1/4 mile times with large 21-22 inch rims
08-01-2008, 04:33 AM
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1/4 mile times with large 21-22 inch rims
Lately I have seen a lot of new members running large diameter wheels and tires.. I'm wondering what difference you guys see at the track over the stock rims and tires.. This changes your overall gear ratio.. Most folks don't change out the rear end for a 4.10 or 3.73.. Comments are appreciated.. thanks 
08-01-2008, 12:35 PM
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ummm I think the largest to likely go to the track would be 20's but I would even doubt someone would run 20's at the track. We don't drive Escalade's.
You will find that most ppl will switch out their wheels before they go to the track so your answer may be hard to come by. I have 19/19 on mine with 3.90's and the CCW's will not be seeing any track, that is what the stockers with the DR's on them are for
brett
You will find that most ppl will switch out their wheels before they go to the track so your answer may be hard to come by. I have 19/19 on mine with 3.90's and the CCW's will not be seeing any track, that is what the stockers with the DR's on them are for
brett
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08-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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Lately I have seen a lot of new members running large diameter wheels and tires.. I'm wondering what difference you guys see at the track over the stock rims and tires.. This changes your overall gear ratio.. Most folks don't change out the rear end for a 4.10 or 3.73.. Comments are appreciated.. thanks
Pitt
08-01-2008, 11:41 PM
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Melting Slicks
You car will be slower for 3 reasons:
It will weigh more
You will have poor gearing
And most importantly, since they dont make DR's or slicks in that size, you wont be able to launch on those street tires
It will weigh more
You will have poor gearing
And most importantly, since they dont make DR's or slicks in that size, you wont be able to launch on those street tires
08-02-2008, 02:37 AM
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Le Mans Master
... if the overall diameter is the same then the gearing will not be effected. A smaller diameter will be like lowering the gearing, and a larger diameter will be like increasing the gearing.By the way..from what I understand, the weight added from most aftermarket wheels is like static weight. If your new wheel/tire is say 30lbs heavier per wheel, that is 120 additional lbs..times 3-4..which is like towing 4-500 lbs behind you. Something to consider if you race.
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02-10-2013, 01:32 AM
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just would like to know what does this term "ghetto" really mean? Does it target a specific group of people? Is the ghetto comprised of a particular group of people? Do you think the term "ghetto" it would be offensive to someone that may have been raised in a poverty stricken environment? So what would "suburban" look like when having a discussion about a car? Thanks for sharing your opinion. I really think if some of us spent more time thinking before speaking we would realize how necessary it is to be more considerate of word usage.
02-10-2013, 10:20 AM
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Whatever man. If you have a forum that millions can comment on, you have to expect some of them to be jerks. Some of them will be nice too. Just be prepared for almost any response. Dont get so bent.
02-10-2013, 10:26 AM
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A little sensitive there Brandon? So much so that you brought up a thread that is nearly 5 years old? 
There are those that don't like big wheels. Some of us (like myself) come from the 60's muscle car backround so it's hard to accept. I'm not much of a fan of anything over 15" if you ask me
But to each their own.
I have heard alot of terms, like Donks, Ghetto, or living in the hood, usually associated with booming stereos. All would suggest a certain ethnic backround I suppose if you want to stereotype here. I really don't care what people call them.
I've had my steel wheels with dog dish hubcaps called "poverty caps". If one were sensitive to the word it might suggest I lived in poverty when I bought the car. I really don't care, it's just a term that really doesn't mean anything to me (I call them poverty caps myself) but I never did jump onto the "politically correct" bandwagon either Not everything is a racest or derogatory comment as much as society wants you to believe.
There are those that don't like big wheels. Some of us (like myself) come from the 60's muscle car backround so it's hard to accept. I'm not much of a fan of anything over 15" if you ask me
But to each their own. I have heard alot of terms, like Donks, Ghetto, or living in the hood, usually associated with booming stereos. All would suggest a certain ethnic backround I suppose if you want to stereotype here. I really don't care what people call them.
I've had my steel wheels with dog dish hubcaps called "poverty caps". If one were sensitive to the word it might suggest I lived in poverty when I bought the car. I really don't care, it's just a term that really doesn't mean anything to me (I call them poverty caps myself
) but I never did jump onto the "politically correct" bandwagon either Not everything is a racest or derogatory comment as much as society wants you to believe.
02-10-2013, 12:03 PM
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A little sensitive there Brandon? So much so that you brought up a thread that is nearly 5 years old?
There are those that don't like big wheels. Some of us (like myself) come from the 60's muscle car backround so it's hard to accept. I'm not much of a fan of anything over 15" if you ask me But to each their own.
I have heard alot of terms, like Donks, Ghetto, or living in the hood, usually associated with booming stereos. All would suggest a certain ethnic backround I suppose if you want to stereotype here. I really don't care what people call them.
I've had my steel wheels with dog dish hubcaps called "poverty caps". If one were sensitive to the word it might suggest I lived in poverty when I bought the car. I really don't care, it's just a term that really doesn't mean anything to me (I call them poverty caps myself) but I never did jump onto the "politically correct" bandwagon either Not everything is a racest or derogatory comment as much as society wants you to believe.
There are those that don't like big wheels. Some of us (like myself) come from the 60's muscle car backround so it's hard to accept. I'm not much of a fan of anything over 15" if you ask me
But to each their own. I have heard alot of terms, like Donks, Ghetto, or living in the hood, usually associated with booming stereos. All would suggest a certain ethnic backround I suppose if you want to stereotype here. I really don't care what people call them.
I've had my steel wheels with dog dish hubcaps called "poverty caps". If one were sensitive to the word it might suggest I lived in poverty when I bought the car. I really don't care, it's just a term that really doesn't mean anything to me (I call them poverty caps myself
) but I never did jump onto the "politically correct" bandwagon either Not everything is a racest or derogatory comment as much as society wants you to believe.
02-10-2013, 12:04 PM
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02-10-2013, 10:41 PM
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Do you go running in loafers? No? Then why race in 20"+ wheels? Use the proper shoes. If you want to drag race, then get some proper wheels and drag radials
02-11-2013, 05:26 AM
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just would like to know what does this term "ghetto" really mean? Does it target a specific group of people? Is the ghetto comprised of a particular group of people? Do you think the term "ghetto" it would be offensive to someone that may have been raised in a poverty stricken environment? So what would "suburban" look like when having a discussion about a car? Thanks for sharing your opinion. I really think if some of us spent more time thinking before speaking we would realize how necessary it is to be more considerate of word usage.
02-11-2013, 07:47 AM
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the thinner the side wall the harder to get the tire to hook up, ie tire spin
There is a reason DR use 15" rims. More side wall on the tire for better grip and hook up.
Lighter the wheels the better.
For every 100 lbs of rational weight removed is ~ 1/10 sec in the quarter.
and 1 lb static weight is ~ 6.5 lbs or rational weight. not to mention the farther the weight is from the center of rotation, the heavier the wheel.
Weight is the killer for acceleration.
There is a reason DR use 15" rims. More side wall on the tire for better grip and hook up.
Lighter the wheels the better.
For every 100 lbs of rational weight removed is ~ 1/10 sec in the quarter.
and 1 lb static weight is ~ 6.5 lbs or rational weight. not to mention the farther the weight is from the center of rotation, the heavier the wheel.
Weight is the killer for acceleration.
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02-11-2013, 11:50 AM
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just would like to know what does this term "ghetto" really mean? Does it target a specific group of people? Is the ghetto comprised of a particular group of people? Do you think the term "ghetto" it would be offensive to someone that may have been raised in a poverty stricken environment? So what would "suburban" look like when having a discussion about a car? Thanks for sharing your opinion. I really think if some of us spent more time thinking before speaking we would realize how necessary it is to be more considerate of word usage.
The extra weight and lack of a sticky tire hurts times. This also depends on your power level, if you have a stock 385hp car you could probably still get some grip and cut a decent time but if you have a 800rwhp car you will probably just blow the tires off.
Last edited by drewkeen; 02-11-2013 at 11:52 AM.