Burnouts bad??!
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Once in a while's OK, provided you don't get any wheel hop etc. The initial break of traction does put stress on drive line components, motor mounts etc.
Oh yeah, if you're power braking it, it's also possible that one side of your rear brakes is holding on just slightly more then the other- which can cause the clutch packs in the rear to overheat.
I used to love to do burnouts... I have a line lock on the 'vette too, but the price of tires cost too much to be entertained by seeing how high the smoke can rise Now when it's time to change the tires out.....
Oh yeah, if you're power braking it, it's also possible that one side of your rear brakes is holding on just slightly more then the other- which can cause the clutch packs in the rear to overheat.
I used to love to do burnouts... I have a line lock on the 'vette too, but the price of tires cost too much to be entertained by seeing how high the smoke can rise Now when it's time to change the tires out.....
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Burnouts can be fun! The cost of tires prevents me from considering it. Keep in mind that GM engineered your car to handle the stresses placed upon it by full-throttle acceleration under extreme loads (e.g., steep grades) and adverse conditions. Unless one or both tires grabs suddenly, you should be OK. What breaks things is a lot of rotating mass which is rotating at high RPMs being brought to a sudden stop, or similar action.
Here's an additional factor to consider. When you break traction, your rear wheels are spinning on molten rubber bits. The rear of your car is subject to gravity and will move downhill as or while the tires are attempting to "hook-up." There is the distinct possibility you could lose control. So.......have fun and burn out wisely........
Here's an additional factor to consider. When you break traction, your rear wheels are spinning on molten rubber bits. The rear of your car is subject to gravity and will move downhill as or while the tires are attempting to "hook-up." There is the distinct possibility you could lose control. So.......have fun and burn out wisely........
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The car is now totally trashed.
I predict it will collapse into several thousand component parts in the next week or so.
Best thing to do is PM me your address and I'll come pick it up so you don't have to pay to have all the pieces hauled away.
I predict it will collapse into several thousand component parts in the next week or so.
Best thing to do is PM me your address and I'll come pick it up so you don't have to pay to have all the pieces hauled away.
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I ordered a new set of Toyos to replace the original Good-Years. Think I might just burn the remaining rubber off the rears. Not worried about any breaking. These cars will take it.
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You should be fine. Im making just over 440 to the wheels and my wheels see it every time I get in the Z. I don't do a lot of burnouts for the fact that DR's are expensive, however I shift at 6500rpms on a regular basis and bang gears fairly hard with no problems. Have fun your car wasn't built to drive 55mph all the time.
#28
I agree, they are made to be driven hard, if you want to baby a car buy a minivan. I have twin turbos and a stock driveline and I can't help but spin just by putting my foot into it. Aside from tires, no harm done. i knew a guy that bought a dodge truck off of an old couple who never drove over the speed limit, by never reving the engine, over time, the cylinders had a groove wore into them from all the miles it was driven. When he bought it and reved it up one time the rings hit the groove and snapped in half. Sometimes not reving an engine can cause more damage. Plus, why have a car you never drive to it's potential? Thats like having a trophy wife you never sleep with. LOL
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Okay. I've enjoyed reading all of your opinions. When I was in high school I had a 64 impala 4-speed convertible that I burned the tires on quite frequently. I would sometimes shift into second at 70mph, and I don't know how high the rpms were at that point, but it just sounded like the right shift point.
But I've never done anything similar with my vette. I've only had it five months and I just found out tonight on another forum how to turn off the TC and the AH. So I may experiment with that a bit and see how it goes.
Now here's my question. Obviously, I don't want to snap the rings. But my car is an 01 6 speed with only 23,000 miles on it, so I'm hoping there's no groove in the cylinders yet. (Does that make sense?) The previous owner pretty much babied it. So my questions is, what rpm would still be safe as a shift point? I don't want to take it too high and break something. Plus, my tires are original, so I'm planning on buying some new Michelin PS2s this month anyway. Of course, at 8 years old, I don't know if I should be burning the tires without fear of the tread flying off.
I'm open to any comment, suggestions, or advice.
Thanks
Michael in KC
But I've never done anything similar with my vette. I've only had it five months and I just found out tonight on another forum how to turn off the TC and the AH. So I may experiment with that a bit and see how it goes.
Now here's my question. Obviously, I don't want to snap the rings. But my car is an 01 6 speed with only 23,000 miles on it, so I'm hoping there's no groove in the cylinders yet. (Does that make sense?) The previous owner pretty much babied it. So my questions is, what rpm would still be safe as a shift point? I don't want to take it too high and break something. Plus, my tires are original, so I'm planning on buying some new Michelin PS2s this month anyway. Of course, at 8 years old, I don't know if I should be burning the tires without fear of the tread flying off.
I'm open to any comment, suggestions, or advice.
Thanks
Michael in KC
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Okay. I've enjoyed reading all of your opinions. When I was in high school I had a 64 impala 4-speed convertible that I burned the tires on quite frequently. I would sometimes shift into second at 70mph, and I don't know how high the rpms were at that point, but it just sounded like the right shift point.
But I've never done anything similar with my vette. I've only had it five months and I just found out tonight on another forum how to turn off the TC and the AH. So I may experiment with that a bit and see how it goes.
Now here's my question. Obviously, I don't want to snap the rings. But my car is an 01 6 speed with only 23,000 miles on it, so I'm hoping there's no groove in the cylinders yet. (Does that make sense?) The previous owner pretty much babied it. So my questions is, what rpm would still be safe as a shift point? I don't want to take it too high and break something. Plus, my tires are original, so I'm planning on buying some new Michelin PS2s this month anyway. Of course, at 8 years old, I don't know if I should be burning the tires without fear of the tread flying off.
I'm open to any comment, suggestions, or advice.
Thanks
Michael in KC
But I've never done anything similar with my vette. I've only had it five months and I just found out tonight on another forum how to turn off the TC and the AH. So I may experiment with that a bit and see how it goes.
Now here's my question. Obviously, I don't want to snap the rings. But my car is an 01 6 speed with only 23,000 miles on it, so I'm hoping there's no groove in the cylinders yet. (Does that make sense?) The previous owner pretty much babied it. So my questions is, what rpm would still be safe as a shift point? I don't want to take it too high and break something. Plus, my tires are original, so I'm planning on buying some new Michelin PS2s this month anyway. Of course, at 8 years old, I don't know if I should be burning the tires without fear of the tread flying off.
I'm open to any comment, suggestions, or advice.
Thanks
Michael in KC
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#35
Burning Brakes
Previous owner did seven to ten burnouts each weekend, at the racetrack,with an A4. Still going fine, although I don't do 'em. Can't afford to break anything.
Tim Glover
Tim Glover
#36
Second best part is catching it on video
Some of the 'funnest' driving is to be had in the last couple days of your tires lifecycle
Last edited by Vette-Dream; 08-06-2008 at 09:46 AM.
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Le Mans Master
Have a fellow club member that bought a C6 and now uses his 99 A4 as his fun/drag car heating drag radials and running it on a regular basis,,,and it has OVER 110,000 miles on it and STILL going strong.Hasn't broken anything yet and it runs in the 11s!!