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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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I purchased their p/p heads 5 mos. ago. Since changing from my stock heads, i am now going through 1 qt/oil every 1k miles. Bad valve guides seem to be the culprit. Is MTI going to stand behind their parts? Anyone with any input, or information, please inform me.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Unfortunally they are out of Business................They can sell you a new car because thats what they are doing now ! !
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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sorry...but I think you are out of luck on this one. Do you still have the stock heads?
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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If not, it's not very expensive for new valve seals. Now, if the guides are worn BIG $.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Was it not an MTI car that just won on pinks all out??? Or am I making stuff up...
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Was it not an MTI car that just won on pinks all out??? Or am I making stuff up...
You're okay. I saw it too. A red coupe, but think it is MTI Atlanta, not Houston.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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The red coupe was MTI Atlanta.... MTI Texas, the guys who brougt us the Z07, are now in the car sales business apparently.
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They decided to move to car sales as they were getting ______________ you fill in the blank
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all i know is that i am really glad mti did not tune my car back in may! f-'em
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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all i know is that i am really glad mti did not tune my car back in may! f-'em
You are one lucky guy
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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They decided to move to car sales as they were getting ______________ you fill in the blank
Originally Posted by kornfreak_401
all i know is that i am really glad mti did not tune my car back in may! f-'em
If you didnt get your car tuned by them, why the attitude?

It reall is amazing what the Intardwebs will do to otherwise civilised people.

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I purchased their p/p heads 5 mos. ago. Since changing from my stock heads, i am now going through 1 qt/oil every 1k miles. Bad valve guides seem to be the culprit. Is MTI going to stand behind their parts? Anyone with any input, or information, please inform me.
What other mods were done at the same time? Is it possible that valvle guides are not the problem? Perhaps the valley pan seal is showing some classic C5 issues and may be the causeof the excessive oil consumption.

Either way, MTI liquidated all their machining equipment and engine building personel, so at best they might offer to assist in the R&R of the heads if the issue was with the heads.

Why not give them a call, or pay them a visit and ask? That would seem to be the logical first step.

Since MTI are no longer "in the game" I now do all my work myself.

Paul
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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I guess i'll just have to eat it. I have emailed them with no response from their car sales website. Jason at GCP installed the heads for me after I had been running the car with stock heads and other upgrades.
Thats when the car started drinking oil. I VERY HIGHLY DOUBT that Jason did anything other than exactly what had to be done during the install. He's just too damn picky with his customers cars. (which is a good thing)
I actually picked up the heads at MTI. What I found when looking at them was that the heads were not completely cleaned. They had crust
still in the corners, they also had some threads pulled in the sparkplug holes and they had to be tapped. Not exactly what i imagined from their website. And I called them on this also, and stated that this was poor workmanship and that i hoped they would do better. But, with the anticipation of the performance inhancement from the heads, i had Jason go ahead and install. I guess next time I will buy only items from
major companies instead of trying to keep the money in Texas. Lesson
learned!
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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So you "bought and picked them up" and even though you wereunsatisfied with their condition, still went ahead and had a 3rd party install them?

There must have been a reason you didnt take them back to MTI in person when you discovered that"They had crust still in the corners, they also had some threads pulled in the sparkplug holes and they had to be tapped. Not exactly what i imagined from their website. And I called them on this also, and stated that this was poor workmanship and that i hoped they would do better."

My guess is you bought these heads used and as-is for an amazingly low price - because it makes no sense if you bought $2000+ worth of heads locally and were not satisified with them that you would not have taken them back in May - but instead you went ahead and had them installed.

I'm all for companies being slammed and dragged through the mud for bad product/service/manufacture etc, but lets also be realistic - why would you buy something, see it was in bad shape and not take it back for a face to face discussion at the time, especially when you are in the same town?

If the heads were in that bad if a shape at the time, your engine builder should have pointed this out to you and refused to do the work as he would know the setup would be less that ideal from the get go.

If you feel this strongly about the issue, why not drive the 20 miles to MTI's Oxford Street location and approach them about taking care of your situation? I am sure that if "cool heads" prevail and there is merit to the entire situation then something can be worked out when dialogue takes place between the 2 parties rather just than one-side belly-aching on the Interwebs.

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slowFRC
Was it not an MTI car that just won on pinks all out??? Or am I making stuff up...
Dont confuse MTI Houston with MTI Atlanta.............
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MIKE-C5
Dont confuse MTI Houston with MTI Atlanta.............
I guess a way to eliminate all confusion is the refer to the one as MTI Racing (the Atlanta folks) and the other as just MTI, the now-only-selling-cars Houston folks - and so folks understand, the 2 companies have never had any affilliation with each other.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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I also bought some heads from them shortley before they went out of business. I did get a good deal but they should have told me they where going out of business. I am pretty sure they knew at that point they where gone. I also called many times and asked for a receipt and flow sheet that they said they had on the heads with no response. I think I will play like I am interested in one of there cars for sale. Worst case they waste a little time for what they have done. Best case when they are actually talking to me they may have some compassion and feel responsible to do what they said they would do. I am not asking for much. It seems very simple to do. I am in business and would never treat my customers like this ( maybe that is why I am still profitable and in business?). Do what I am going to do. If they think you are going to buy a car they will call back. They called back they same day before receiving my money and never after.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RC45
So you "bought and picked them up" and even though you wereunsatisfied with their condition, still went ahead and had a 3rd party install them?

There must have been a reason you didnt take them back to MTI in person when you discovered that"They had crust still in the corners, they also had some threads pulled in the sparkplug holes and they had to be tapped. Not exactly what i imagined from their website. And I called them on this also, and stated that this was poor workmanship and that i hoped they would do better."

My guess is you bought these heads used and as-is for an amazingly low price - because it makes no sense if you bought $2000+ worth of heads locally and were not satisified with them that you would not have taken them back in May - but instead you went ahead and had them installed.

I'm all for companies being slammed and dragged through the mud for bad product/service/manufacture etc, but lets also be realistic - why would you buy something, see it was in bad shape and not take it back for a face to face discussion at the time, especially when you are in the same town?

If the heads were in that bad if a shape at the time, your engine builder should have pointed this out to you and refused to do the work as he would know the setup would be less that ideal from the get go.

If you feel this strongly about the issue, why not drive the 20 miles to MTI's Oxford Street location and approach them about taking care of your situation? I am sure that if "cool heads" prevail and there is merit to the entire situation then something can be worked out when dialogue takes place between the 2 parties rather just than one-side belly-aching on the Interwebs.
RC45, you make assumptions on another individuals circumstances, but really dont know what happened. I meet a lot of people like you. For your information, they were NOT used heads, nor discount heads. They were the heads that they advertised. Unless you have something constructive to say in this thread, then stay out. Because you evidently have nothing to add to this or know anything about this.
I asked a simple question, i asked if anyone knew if MTI was going to back their products, or if everyone...including me was out of luck. AS STATED....i will eat it!
And just maybe....just maybe, someone with MTI will come on here
and tell all of those that trusted them if they are going to back what they supplied. If they wont answer emails then i guess its over. When I did call them, they didnt seem interested by my finds. So i guess they knew at that time that they werent going to be in business much longer.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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hey dad look at his avatar..... it is MTI and hes from houston ,,,,,hmmm i wonder,,,,,
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RC45, you make assumptions on another individuals circumstances, but really dont know what happened. I meet a lot of people like you. For your information, they were NOT used heads, nor discount heads. They were the heads that they advertised. Unless you have something constructive to say in this thread, then stay out.
You are correct - I dont know "what happened" -wait - I do know, you just got done telling us hat happened, you bought some heads, saw they were not in good condition and never took them back, even though you say you and your engine builder knew they were damaged went ahead and installed them anyway.

Now, when an issue occurs you are wondering if the first company will cover product that someone esle has already worked on - I don't believe many companies work that way (even the ones still in buisness) - if you buy an engine part and have issues with it, you need to retrn it BEFORE you work on it.

At least thats the way I understand these thing to work - retunr it BEFORE you install it if you notice problems with it.


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hey dad look at his avatar..... it is MTI and hes from houston ,,,,,hmmm i wonder,,,,,
What about the avatar? I have an MTI Z07 package on my Z06. What about it?

Now you assume because someone buys a product and proudly diplays the badge they MUST be associated with the company?

Interesting take.

I had been dreaming of a Z07 pckage for my Z06 the day I saw SW's 422ci Z07 run. I decided to take the plunge last year - why not? I mean MTI Houston had been one of the premiere LSx builder/tuners for 10 freaking years... since the day the LSx debuted. If anyone was going to be around for a while they were - right?

You don't think those of us that spent upwards of $30K on mods and buildups with MTI are not pissed that they decided to bail on a loyal customer base?

You dont think that those of us that had faith in the company for years and years and years and years before that closed shop are not absofarginglutely angry and bitter that before the 12 months warranty on the labour of the major work done was up they close the doors?

Of course we are pissed and angry and bitter and resentful - but most of us also have an idea about life.


Life is full of risks and adventure - and very few guarantees. When ever we buy something we hope the company behind it will be there tomorrow and next week and next year - we take a gamble when we spend money, but we stack the deck in our favour and go with people whom have been around a while.. in the hope they will still be there later

But there are no guarantees... I mean who am I going to run crying to if about the tranny rebuild MTI did for me? Or the tune? Or the oil cooler install? Or the ported heads or the forged shortblock? Hell, I can't even go back and get my stock radiator from the back room anymore... the back room is empty...

Now back to the opening poster... what did he hope to gain by bellyaching on the CorvetteForum about this issue?

Asking on the CF if MTI Houston would honour his warrantee was a loaded question to begin with - he already knows they are out of the car tuning game, so just get in the car and drive from Katy to Oxford street and go ASK them if they will do right by him.

That is surely a lot less stressful and agrivating than posting a soap opera on CF... right?

So now back to the actual heads.. if he saw the damage on the heads at the time, why not get in the car, drive from Katy to Oxford street and get his money back?

His engine builder should have known that going into a project with heads that they were already unsatisified with was a recipe fo distaster from the get go.

That is why I responded the way I did - if you have questions about a product from day 1, just take it back and get a refund.

Problem solved before it even becomes a problem.

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If you didnt get your car tuned by them, why the attitude?

It reall is amazing what the Intardwebs will do to otherwise civilised people.



What other mods were done at the same time? Is it possible that valvle guides are not the problem? Perhaps the valley pan seal is showing some classic C5 issues and may be the causeof the excessive oil consumption.

Either way, MTI liquidated all their machining equipment and engine building personel, so at best they might offer to assist in the R&R of the heads if the issue was with the heads.

Why not give them a call, or pay them a visit and ask? That would seem to be the logical first step.

Since MTI are no longer "in the game" I now do all my work myself.

Paul

Just saying because ya'll ditched on a lot of ppl, more on LS1TECH...

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