Contest Your Traffic Citations
Melting Slicks
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From: Bel Air Md
Not quite as bad as a speeding ticket, just a slap in the face from a State Cop. $75 ticket, no front tag, had the tag and could put it on in 2 minutes, on a Sunday, Fathers Day, with my son in the car. His final comment, Happy Fathers Day. My comment, under by breath , Was *********************
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LEO and a good end result for you. Congrats.
LEO and a good end result for you. Congrats.
Melting Slicks
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From: Columbia SC
Smart move. I have been a law enforcement officer for over 20 years, I do not and will not ever debate a case on the side of the road with someone who wants to claim they did not do what I am writting them for. 1st if you did not do what I am writting you for I would not have pulled you over, 2nd the court room is the place to put forth the merits of your case, not the side of the road.
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
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Drifting
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From: Newport, RI
LEO, but your forum name "Fast Cop" suggests to me that you drive fast and frequently exceed the posted speed limits. Normally, I wouldn't care if you were speeding, but that name seems to be flaunting the fact that you're a cop and you can get away with it, meanwhile you issue citations to others that speed. Seems kinda hypocritical to me. Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to start war, lol. I'm simply suggesting that authority figures (such as LEO) should be especially considerate of appearances to civilian working stiffs like me.
Now, I sincerely apologize in advance to everyone here who thinks I am
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You sound like reasonable guy and you're probably a LEO, but your forum name "Fast Cop" suggests to me that you drive fast and frequently exceed the posted speed limits. Normally, I wouldn't care if you were speeding, but that name seems to be flaunting the fact that you're a cop and you can get away with it, meanwhile you issue citations to others that speed. Seems kinda hypocritical to me.
Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to start war, lol. I'm simply suggesting that authority figures (such as LEO) should be especially considerate of appearances to civilian working stiffs like me.
Now, I sincerely apologize in advance to everyone here who thinks I am
Peace
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LEO, but your forum name "Fast Cop" suggests to me that you drive fast and frequently exceed the posted speed limits. Normally, I wouldn't care if you were speeding, but that name seems to be flaunting the fact that you're a cop and you can get away with it, meanwhile you issue citations to others that speed. Seems kinda hypocritical to me. Don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to start war, lol. I'm simply suggesting that authority figures (such as LEO) should be especially considerate of appearances to civilian working stiffs like me.
Now, I sincerely apologize in advance to everyone here who thinks I am
Peace
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From: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Boy, glad I live in California. 
California courts follow the Uniform Bail and Penalty Schedules. This insures fairness, statewide. Any court costs are part of the original fine, if I read it correctly. http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/referenc...s/2003bail.pdf
Added Court costs, because you decide to go to trial, sounds very unfair to me. I thought it is your right to a trial. Are people who are convicted of crimes required to pay Court costs? How about the ones found innocent?
California courts follow the Uniform Bail and Penalty Schedules. This insures fairness, statewide. Any court costs are part of the original fine, if I read it correctly. http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/referenc...s/2003bail.pdf
Added Court costs, because you decide to go to trial, sounds very unfair to me. I thought it is your right to a trial. Are people who are convicted of crimes required to pay Court costs? How about the ones found innocent?
Only one time did I get a good break when challenging the charge. The DA actually called me at work and we worked out a deal over the phone. I was a little PO's over the charge and explained it to him and he agreed with me and then worked with the judge to eliminate the fine. I got off for a $30 court charge that time.
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Smart move. I have been a law enforcement officer for over 20 years, I do not and will not ever debate a case on the side of the road with someone who wants to claim they did not do what I am writting them for. 1st if you did not do what I am writting you for I would not have pulled you over, 2nd the court room is the place to put forth the merits of your case, not the side of the road.
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that if phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that if phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
Bill
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Burning Brakes
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From: Newport Beach California
Smart move. I have been a law enforcement officer for over 20 years, I do not and will not ever debate a case on the side of the road with someone who wants to claim they did not do what I am writting them for. 1st if you did not do what I am writting you for I would not have pulled you over, 2nd the court room is the place to put forth the merits of your case, not the side of the road.
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
Having said that in about 90% of my traffic cases if the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
Burning Brakes
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Oakton Virginia
Don't most states give you safe driving points? Virginia does. For every year that you drive without a ticket you get one safe driving point (5 max). I got a 'failure to obey' last summer (3 points) but it had been more than five years since my previous ticket so I had the full 5 points from which to deduct the 3 point ticket. I'm guessing insurance companies look at incidents (convictions) regardless of point totals.
Burning Brakes
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From: Newport Beach California
Don't most states give you safe driving points? Virginia does. For every year that you drive without a ticket you get one safe driving point (5 max). I got a 'failure to obey' last summer (3 points) but it had been more than five years since my previous ticket so I had the full 5 points from which to deduct the 3 point ticket. I'm guessing insurance companies look at incidents (convictions) regardless of point totals.
, so im not sure whether safe driving points help, although they might
Safety Car
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From: yardley, pa 19067
I'm with you on fighting tickets.. I got nabbed doing 53 in a 35 zone..Met the cop before the trial and he let me plead guilty to 5 mph over the limit(That's a fine with NO POINTS in Pa)..
I got nabbed doing 53 in a 35 zone..Met the cop before the trial and he let me plead guilty to 5 mph over the limit(That's a fine with NO POINTS in Pa)..
Burning Brakes
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From: Newport Beach California
Melting Slicks
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From: Issaquah WA
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The increased insurance premiums is probably my biggest concern. Paying the ticket is a one time expense, premiums go on a bit longer.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: PSL FL
If the defendant shows up in court on their appoited day and ask me (without attitude) to reduce the charge I normally without even batting an eye reduce it, and in many cases even dropped it.
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
I would say that if you have the time go to court, be nice and treat the officer who wrote you the ticket with a little kindness (you do not have to kiss his *** as he will know that is phoney) after all we are human also (at least most of us, yes their are some *** holes who have no business being cops).
Good luck!
there. I can understand why some of the LEO's are tough/pain in the butt and that can be because of some of the people they have to deal with. You sir seem to offer everyone their own choice of how you will react to them. Be nice and the LEO will be nice, act like an idiot, and you deserve the same treatment back.
I have had my share of tickets, mostly for doing stupid things, but one thing I have learned is if you find an insurance company that treats you well, do not change to another one for a couple of dollars. It will cost you more in the end because you either forget about a ticket you had or they find out about another one and increase your rates. I have stayed with the same company for 10 years and have had numerous tickets with no increases, knock on wood.
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From: Lacombe Louisiana
I once was arrested in my garage backing my bike out to go to work!Friggin idiot cop said he had been chasing me for 2 hrs and never lost sight of me.When I told him to feel my engine as it hadnt even been started,he slapped cuffs on me and put me in the back of the cruiser,off to jail I went!Once bailed out I went straight to mt lawyers,fought this ***** in court and lost! I got the minimum fine on all counts,even the baliff told me the judge knew I was innocent!I was told I got minimum fines because if it is my word against his ,they have to take the cops side or they will be discredited and their word in court will not be worth beans!So$1300.00 in fines and higher insurance for a lying SOB,I have no use for any of em now!
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Camden County NJ
I did the same thing here in NJ over 4yrs ago and it worked out well for me. Now NJ has a $300 surcharge to talk with the judge...add that on top of the fines and misalliances fees, your looking at close to $500
I was lucky because my ticket was issued before the new surcharge law so I did not have to pay the 3 bills
I was lucky because my ticket was issued before the new surcharge law so I did not have to pay the 3 bills
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: N E area of state Kansas
Now this is a stand up guy and I wish there were more LEO's like you
there. I can understand why some of the LEO's are tough/pain in the butt and that can be because of some of the people they have to deal with. You sir seem to offer everyone their own choice of how you will react to them. Be nice and the LEO will be nice, act like an idiot, and you deserve the same treatment back.
I have had my share of tickets, mostly for doing stupid things, but one thing I have learned is if you find an insurance company that treats you well, do not change to another one for a couple of dollars. It will cost you more in the end because you either forget about a ticket you had or they find out about another one and increase your rates. I have stayed with the same company for 10 years and have had numerous tickets with no increases, knock on wood.
there. I can understand why some of the LEO's are tough/pain in the butt and that can be because of some of the people they have to deal with. You sir seem to offer everyone their own choice of how you will react to them. Be nice and the LEO will be nice, act like an idiot, and you deserve the same treatment back.
I have had my share of tickets, mostly for doing stupid things, but one thing I have learned is if you find an insurance company that treats you well, do not change to another one for a couple of dollars. It will cost you more in the end because you either forget about a ticket you had or they find out about another one and increase your rates. I have stayed with the same company for 10 years and have had numerous tickets with no increases, knock on wood.
Drifting
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