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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicked C5
I know its hard for many to believe but the C6 and C5 aren't so different. I owned many C5's and a couple of C6's but not a C6Z. I have driven a couple though.

Like I said before the torque range of a 7.0 motor is hard to beat. The aluminum frame,7.0 motor and dry sump are the main advantages of the C6Z. 2 of those go out the door in a drag race the other is harder to overcome. On a road course the Frame and the dry sump help much more but many people like the c5z because it has excellent grip and is more tossable then the C6Z.
couldnt put it better myself, would have responded earlier if i had seen this post.

a 7.0L motor has an incredible torque range. and with only spending a couple thousand more for full bolt ons and dynotune, not only will you pick up at LEAST 30 rwhp, your gonna get an even "jumpier" accelerator, if that makes sense. personally, its hard to look at stock Z06's...IMHO, you can make the car a decent amount faster, better sounding, and have it stand out more than other cars even moreso with just simple bolt ons.

c6z with borla exh, intake, LG pro long tubes is my dream car haha. get out of the way mustang, your gonna need to spend several hundred thousand on a supercar lambo or ferrari to match that
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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I believe that the are certain modification set ups in which a C5 with equal hp to the C6Z06 can win in a drag race. Your post refers specifically to superchargers but there are some stock displacement C5s without superchargers that run in the 10s, just look at the C5 performance list. That being said, I would take the C6Z06 with equivalent hp for better all around performance. These cars are sports cars and not really orientated strictly to drag racing even though there is so much emphasis on the 1/4 mile on the forum. Also, with a poor driver, the C6Z06 can easily be stuck in the low 12s. Talk is cheap, timeslips speak the facts.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by motogib1
I believe that the are certain modification set ups in which a C5 with equal hp to the C6Z06 can win in a drag race. Your post refers specifically to superchargers but there are some stock displacement C5s without superchargers that run in the 10s, just look at the C5 performance list. That being said, I would take the C6Z06 with equivalent hp for better all around performance. These cars are sports cars and not really orientated strictly to drag racing even though there is so much emphasis on the 1/4 mile on the forum. Also, with a poor driver, the C6Z06 can easily be stuck in the low 12s. Talk is cheap, timeslips speak the facts.
couldnt have put it better myself
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Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
You might want to go here and read the rules before you just start posting videos.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...ng-videos.html
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Originally Posted by turbocrazy
Listen I apologize for breaking your rule. I was only trying to provide some insightful and VISUAL input as to the outcome of this "race". I am not sure about you or anyone else in this thread but I would really like to hear more about the winner in the outcome of these to cars , instead of this bickering
It would be wise for your longevity on the CF to read all the rules........here is a link:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/foru...and-rules-109/

Plenty of track times posted here and on the web
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Originally Posted by soada101
c5 superc vs stock c6 zo6?out of curiosity. lets say both drivers were good and both had 505 hp. who would win?!?!??!!?! any advantages either one have over each other?!?!?
Having owned a highly modified supercharged C5 pushing 800+ to the wheels, to answer your question and to keep it VERY simple without going into debates, if both cars had 505HP to the crank, C6 Z06 will brutally murder the supercharged C5 regardless of PD or Centrifugal supercharger on C5.
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Originally Posted by FactoryRaceCar
Having owned a highly modified supercharged C5 pushing 800+ to the wheels, to answer your question and to keep it VERY simple without going into debates, if both cars had 505HP to the crank, C6 Z06 will brutally murder the supercharged C5 regardless of PD or Centrifugal supercharger on C5.
brutally murder? why? with similar power they shud be pushing similar times...

i dont understand why the c6 is so superior with the same power

explain???

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Originally Posted by a1231212
brutally murder? why? with similar power they shud be pushing similar times...

i dont understand why the c6 is so superior with the same power

explain???

His argument most likely relates to it's ligher weight. But "murder", is an exaggeration in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by ALVETTE00
His argument most likely relates to it's ligher weight. But "murder", is an exaggeration in my opinion.
yeah its lighter but not by much...murder definetely is an exaggeration, although your right, the c6 would come out on top
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Originally Posted by a1231212
brutally murder? why? with similar power they shud be pushing similar times...

i dont understand why the c6 is so superior with the same power

explain???

If you ever get a chance, check the power under the curve for centrifugal supercharged 346ci and NA 427ci motor upto 505HP to the crank. Not to mention the gearing and hooking is KILLER on the new Z. I am only talking about both the cars with 505HP to the crank.

In the hands of proper driver and ideal conditions, C6Z is capable of running 10s from factory with the exception of rear tires. It's been done before.
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Originally Posted by FactoryRaceCar
If you ever get a chance, check the power under the curve for centrifugal supercharged 346ci and NA 427ci motor upto 505HP to the crank. Not to mention the gearing and hooking is KILLER on the new Z. I am only talking about both the cars with 505HP to the crank.

In the hands of proper driver and ideal conditions, C6Z is capable of running 10s from factory with the exception of rear tires. It's been done before.
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Originally Posted by 02MillenniumVette
Are there not any C5's with roots blowers putting out 505 having a pretty much factory setup with the exception of the rear tires in the 10's?

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Originally Posted by tbrent
Are there not any C5's with roots blowers putting out 505 having a pretty much factory setup with the exception of the rears tires in the 10's?
I dont know are there!?
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Originally Posted by tbrent
Are there not any C5's with roots blowers putting out 505 having a pretty much factory setup with the exception of the rear tires in the 10's?
No. None to my knowledge and I think I know my F/I a tiny bit.
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There are N/A 346 setups with ~430 rwhp running 10's...I know one of them!

Agreed, the torque curve on bigger cube has advantage, naturally.
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Originally Posted by ALVETTE00
There are N/A 346 setups with ~430 rwhp running 10's...I know one of them!

Agreed, the torque curve on bigger cube has advantage, naturally.
We are talking about supercharged C5 346 with 505HP and C6Z06 stock
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Originally Posted by soada101
thanks for all the input! im trying to decide to go for the z and give my wife the other vette or just fix this one up! but i have to beat vette-pilot one day! lol ahhaahahahaha
I keep going back and forth as well.

The one thing you gotta remember when you add that much extra HP to a C5 is, the drivetrain is not designed to handle it.

For example, you're going to have to get a new clutch, as the stock one will not last long!

Secondly, with a SC, you're putting extra strain on an already high-compression engine, so the tune had better be good and safe, otherwise, you'll be replacing things again down the road...

That being said, A&A corvette just had a SC sale - $4500 for the kit = ~500rwhp.

A few years down the road when C6Zs can be had for even cheaper, it's going to be tough deciding between the SC route and just trading in my C5Z.

And hopefully they'll fix all the rocker arm issues in the C6Z by then lol
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Originally Posted by FactoryRaceCar
If you ever get a chance, check the power under the curve for centrifugal supercharged 346ci and NA 427ci motor upto 505HP to the crank. Not to mention the gearing and hooking is KILLER on the new Z. I am only talking about both the cars with 505HP to the crank.

In the hands of proper driver and ideal conditions, C6Z is capable of running 10s from factory with the exception of rear tires. It's been done before.
10s stock? thats incredible!
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AND THE BENCH WINS AGAIN
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I'll try a c6 z06 out.
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