Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech

Royal Purple gets busted.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:04 PM
  #21  
ZO6ED's Avatar
ZO6ED
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 325
Likes: 1
From: Charleston South Carolina
Default

Mobil 1 for me baby
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:06 PM
  #22  
dbiddle's Avatar
dbiddle
Racer
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 414
Likes: 1
Default

Mobil 1.. The oil i use, And nothing but Mobil 1..
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:15 PM
  #23  
BenC5's Avatar
BenC5
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 1
From: MA
Default

There really is something to that old credo, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" I mean, how could they have created an oil that is so much better than what is already out there?

In the snowmobile world, there was this new oil called, are you ready, Blue Marble. Sounds like Royal Purple, right? There must be some market research done that says, if you put a color into a name and add another catchy name to add to it, you can get a lot of people to swear by your oil, and if it is dyed, well, you can take it to the bank. Blue Marble.

I'll admit, I put the Royal Purple in my differential because it already has the friction modifier in it AND it is a full synthetic oil, but I did not do it because of any advertising claims and the oil was not much more than Mobil 1. So far, no issues. But no way was I going to spend the money they wanted for a quart of their motor oil. It is lies in advertising like this that would and will turn me off to the oil forever. I will not use any of their products again in light of their deceptive advertising.

Then again, I'd have to confirm that the BP article is real and not made up on the internet. Along the same lines that just because it is on the internet does not mean it is real. And, why bother reading what I typed here? I'm a hypocrite, I really am.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:27 PM
  #24  
Numb's Avatar
Numb
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Austin Texas
Default

Meh... it's just semantics. They may have been a little overzealous in their advertising, but no worse, IMO, than Mobil 1's Group IV basestock claims. I still think RP has solid products, and I'm currently running them in my transmission and differential - still run Mobil 1 in the engine.

On a purely subjective note, my transmission shifts smoother with RP Synchromax than it did with the 2 month old Mobil 1 ATF that I drained out of it.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:40 PM
  #25  
10U 99's Avatar
10U 99
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,336
Likes: 4
From: NW Arkansas
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
The cold hard facts include thousands upon thousands of vehicles using Mobil 1 over the years that have accumulated more than 150,000 miles on their engines. This is proof enough for me that Mobil 1 works. In fact, lowly non-synthetic-infused engines rack up 300,000 miles on a regular basis. You really can't go wrong with almost any SAE-approved oil (of proper viscosity) nowadays.

there ya go


at least RP can still advertise it as oil.......... and it's purple
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:26 PM
  #26  
427435's Avatar
427435
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,658
Likes: 25
From: Rochester Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by AlexSmith
Am I taking what I need to from the article? I glanced over it pretty quickly. From what I gather RP is just having to change their claims because the information they received from independent testing is not enough to substantiate their advertisements but, on the same hand is STILL a synthetic oil that meets the requirements to be used in an LS1. Did I miss something else?

-Alex
Yes you did.

If it's not on http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsi...ngine_oils.pdf it's not approved.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:29 PM
  #27  
Sawbladz's Avatar
Sawbladz
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 266
Likes: 2
From: Alliston Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
The cold hard facts include thousands upon thousands of vehicles using Mobil 1 over the years that have accumulated more than 150,000 miles on their engines. This is proof enough for me that Mobil 1 works. In fact, lowly non-synthetic-infused engines rack up 300,000 miles on a regular basis. You really can't go wrong with almost any SAE-approved oil (of proper viscosity) nowadays.
Anecdotal evidence strikes again! So I guess if Bob and Sue did it for years and their car didn't grind to an absolute halt this oil must be the best oil ever!

You have no idea about this topic because you haven't ever researched it. If you ever decide to do some proper reading and actually LEARN SOMETHING, you will see that there are far superior products to be used. Perpetuating the belief that Mobil 1 is the be all, end all of oils is misleading to those who are like you. Too lazy to do the research and therefore will forever be ignorant of the reality which is modern engine oils.

This kind of group think mentality that takes place on this forum makes me sick. Wake up people. It's a big internet with tons of useful information on a variety of topics. Bobistheoilguy is a great place to start.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:36 PM
  #28  
Cod's Avatar
Cod
Bazinga!
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,162
Likes: 19
From: E-Town TN
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by 04 commemorative
I'm just fine with Mobil 1
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:37 PM
  #29  
Cod's Avatar
Cod
Bazinga!
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,162
Likes: 19
From: E-Town TN
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Originally Posted by Sawbladz
Anecdotal evidence strikes again! So I guess if Bob and Sue did it for years and their car didn't grind to an absolute halt this oil must be the best oil ever!

You have no idea about this topic because you haven't ever researched it. If you ever decide to do some proper reading and actually LEARN SOMETHING, you will see that there are far superior products to be used. Perpetuating the belief that Mobil 1 is the be all, end all of oils is misleading to those who are like you. Too lazy to do the research and therefore will forever be ignorant of the reality which is modern engine oils.

This kind of group think mentality that takes place on this forum makes me sick. Wake up people. It's a big internet with tons of useful information on a variety of topics. Bobistheoilguy is a great place to start.

Have one on me.........
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:42 PM
  #30  
Bigstik's Avatar
Bigstik
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 1
From: Douglasville Ga
Default

I continue to find out that the old sayings never dye. Gimmicks don't work. And until someone shows me data with numerous (like 30-40) dyno pulls with the same car and the same dyno showing RP increases HP, i will continue to use M-1 as long as I have any performance car.

And please no comments about the testing parameters. I just blurted that out to make my point. use your own head for the details.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:50 PM
  #31  
Vetteman Jack's Avatar
Vetteman Jack
Administrator
Supporting Lifetime
Veteran: Navy
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
25 Year Member
Veteran: Reserves
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 368,405
Likes: 24,798
From: In a parallel universe. Currently own 2014 Stingray Coupe.
C7 of the Year - Modified Finalist 2021
MO Events Coordinator
St. Jude Co-Organizer
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
NCM Sinkhole Donor
CI 5, 8 & 11 Veteran
Default

Interesting read - guess they need to try making their claims a little more fact based next time.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:56 PM
  #32  
Dominic Toretto's Avatar
Dominic Toretto
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,467
Likes: 8
From: 972 and 405
Default

So let me get this straight, now that RP is now just ordinary synthetic oil as Mobil1, Mobile1 is all of a sudden better? I'll admit I was dissapointed in their claims too, however, that just brings it down to the ordinary level of syn oils. Or maybe I am still missing where M1 is actually better.

-Alex
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:30 PM
  #33  
GRUNIE's Avatar
GRUNIE
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,608
Likes: 11
From: Aliso Viejo So. Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by AlexSmith
So let me get this straight, now that RP is now just ordinary synthetic oil as Mobil1, Mobile1 is all of a sudden better? I'll admit I was dissapointed in their claims too, however, that just brings it down to the ordinary level of syn oils. Or maybe I am still missing where M1 is actually better.

-Alex
I would not go as far to say Mobil 1 is a better oil. RP is good stuff. Just way over priced . My .02
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:42 PM
  #34  
SkyWarp's Avatar
SkyWarp
Pro
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 587
Likes: 0
From: Toronto Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by ~JOSHUA
I use Amsoil anyway.. IMO the best.
There is nothing better!!

Rob
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:59 PM
  #35  
HawnHog's Avatar
HawnHog
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 3
From: Hawaii
Default

As long as it MEETS or EXCEEDS the recommendations as stated in your owners manual, one more time:

EARL IS EARL!!!

Buy what is on sale. Your car will not know the minute difference. HONEST! I get AMSOIL cheap so I use it.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:00 PM
  #36  
VR4Gixxer's Avatar
VR4Gixxer
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 313
Likes: 0
From: Claremont NH
Default

Joe Gibbs is the top of the line oil if you want to spend the $$$$ But I use RP
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:03 PM
  #37  
Dominic Toretto's Avatar
Dominic Toretto
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,467
Likes: 8
From: 972 and 405
Default

Originally Posted by GRUNIE
I would not go as far to say Mobil 1 is a better oil. RP is good stuff. Just way over priced . My .02
I'm not saying it's better either but, from the responses here that seems to be what everyone is agreeing on. It's not too much more than M1, maybe a few cents.

-Alex
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Royal Purple gets busted.

Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:11 PM
  #38  
427435's Avatar
427435
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,658
Likes: 25
From: Rochester Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by HawnHog
As long as it MEETS or EXCEEDS the recommendations as stated in your owners manual, one more time:

EARL IS EARL!!!

Buy what is on sale. Your car will not know the minute difference. HONEST! I get AMSOIL cheap so I use it.

I don't see Amsoil on http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsi...ngine_oils.pdf either.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:12 PM
  #39  
GRUNIE's Avatar
GRUNIE
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,608
Likes: 11
From: Aliso Viejo So. Cal.
Default

Originally Posted by AlexSmith
I'm not saying it's better either but, from the responses here that seems to be what everyone is agreeing on. It's not too much more than M1, maybe a few cents.

-Alex
A few cents? In my neck of the woods, RP is considerably more. Then again, everything around here is considerably more
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 06:35 PM
  #40  
Drewstein's Avatar
Drewstein
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,191
Likes: 43
From: Scottsdale Az
Default

Originally Posted by AlexSmith
So let me get this straight, now that RP is now just ordinary synthetic oil as Mobil1, Mobile1 is all of a sudden better? I'll admit I was disappointed in their claims too, however, that just brings it down to the ordinary level of syn oils. Or maybe I am still missing where M1 is actually better.

-Alex
Maybe buying from a company that's honest is enough to make one product better.

Who knows what else they could be hiding from us. They're willing to fabricate an awful lot just to sell their product, the rabbit hole could be deeper.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:22 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE