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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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I am thinking about change my cam. How much hp have you gain changing your cam?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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You can get gains from a cam only swap, but what you really want is a cam/heads swap. They will work together to get the most out of each other. Don't forget you'll need to get nice cold air in easier(cai), and out(headers/X-pipe/free flowing mufflers). All of these things, plus plenty of others, if combined properly will bring great gains to your engine.
What you need to do is determine what your plans are for the car. Street only, track only, combo of both, daily driver, etc. Once you know that, then members can offer you advice on how to set your car up.Mike
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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You need to also think about what you want out of the car. What are you going to do with it. SOme cams give you big hp and some give you tq.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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tanks VeroWing and Bigstik, great advice. What I am looking for is to get around 400 to 450 hp/tq and still able cruise along.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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That shouldn't be too hard at all. Start with a Vararam vrb2 cold air intake. Next a set of longtube headers/X-pipe, with a good flowing muffler system. Then take it to a tuner, or get yourself a Diablo Predator handheld tuner, or equivalent, and add a performance tune, and then dial in your fuel trims, etc.. Those things alone will take your base 345hp ls1 to around the 400hp+ area. Next you would most likely want to upgrade heads/cam plus at least a ls6 intake. There are plenty of combinations, and when you are ready for specific part numbers, etc., go to the "Tech forum" and ask some of the guys there. They can give you tons of info on making your decision.
Just keep in mind, that once you start making 400/500 hp and torque, you better be sure that you upgrade your drivetrain to handle the extra power. Mike


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tanks VeroWing and Bigstik, great advice. What I am looking for is to get around 400 to 450 hp/tq and still able cruise along.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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I gained about 20 rwhp with a very mild cam only - with stock heads.

Went from 343 rwhp to 363 rwhp, nice sound too - a bit lopey

It all depends on how much cash you have to spend.

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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by VeroWing
That shouldn't be too hard at all. Start with a Vararam vrb2 cold air intake. Next a set of longtube headers/X-pipe, with a good flowing muffler system. Then take it to a tuner, or get yourself a Diablo Predator handheld tuner, or equivalent, and add a performance tune, and then dial in your fuel trims, etc.. Those things alone will take your base 345hp ls1 to around the 400hp+ area. Next you would most likely want to upgrade heads/cam plus at least a ls6 intake. There are plenty of combinations, and when you are ready for specific part numbers, etc., go to the "Tech forum" and ask some of the guys there. They can give you tons of info on making your decision.
Just keep in mind, that once you start making 400/500 hp and torque, you better be sure that you upgrade your drivetrain to handle the extra power. Mike
lol not going to get to 400 rwhp on a ls1 with those mods very very wishful thinking
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Did I say rwhp? Or did you just ASSume that?


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lol not going to get to 400 rwhp on a ls1 with those mods very very wishful thinking

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IMHO your best bet for a bone stock C5 would be to add long tube headers with hi- flow cats and a cold air intake such as a vararam ($300) or a Calloway Honker ($500) plus a street tune. This will get you 40+ hp at the wheel and will help get max power from a cam should you decide to add on in the future.
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Originally Posted by motogib1
IMHO your best bet for a bone stock C5 would be to add long tube headers with hi- flow cats and a cold air intake such as a vararam ($300) or a Calloway Honker ($500) plus a street tune. This will get you 40+ hp at the wheel and will help get max power from a cam should you decide to add on in the future.
This is some wisdom....
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My advice exactly.


Originally Posted by motogib1
IMHO your best bet for a bone stock C5 would be to add long tube headers with hi- flow cats and a cold air intake such as a vararam ($300) or a Calloway Honker ($500) plus a street tune. This will get you 40+ hp at the wheel and will help get max power from a cam should you decide to add on in the future.
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Ya, your better off to do baby steps - air intake, then headers + tune, maybe custom exhaust, rear end - if auto + stall, then heads + cam.

Just be prepared to spend big money.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Thanks guys for all the imput. I will consider every option and try to get the most out of it.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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Taking it in small steps makes it a very affordable way to do it. I started with simple bolt ons. Cold air intake, cat back exhaust. I then did the cam with tune (not dynoed) and other associated mods that are usually done at the time of a cam swap. ie: oil pump, pushrods, springs, timing chain, and other misc. When I did run on the dyno at a later date my RWHP was 348HP/358TQ my airflow ratio was still pretty rich which means there was still some horsepower left on the table. The cam is somewhat mild but very driveable, (220/220, .581/.581, 112). I recently added the Dynatech headers with cats. this has made a substantial seat of the pants feel. I would say worth 20RWHP with the other mods combined. My next step is to get heads and new intake manifold. since my car is a 99 i'm still running the non LS6 manifold which became standard in 01 I think. I intend to get AFR heads 92mm fast with LS2 throttle body. That plus a tune on the dyno should net around 420-430 RWHP. Good luck with what ever direction you go. The most important thing you can do is to go with a good performance shop, that will make all the difference, and make it very enjoyable, which is why your doing it in the first place.
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