Ive been on the forum for a good while and I have heard some of the craziest B.S on people wanting to buy something and then pulling out at the last possbile minute. Hell i even had a guy send me money and then back out and i was kind enough to send it back to him after hearing his "sob story". I think the economy is bringing out the worse in people. I mean we are grown adults, or at least we would think right? It just boggles my mind on how much B.S goes on between emails, Pm's and phone calls and you set it up and than boom , you never get a email, call or PM and the guy disappears. Now dont get me wrong, i am by no means perfect in any way shape or form. But i at least try to get back with whomever it may be when i can go through with the deal so I dont leave them out to dry like ive had happen so many times. Sorry just ranting because its just unreal to think that people conduct themselves in this way..Very aggravating.. Sorry for the rant. Pheeeww. i feel alittle bit better. Jay

 

I think a lot of the prob is seeing that the price of a C5 has dropped so much we now have a lot of kids that are buying them. And along with some of the younger gen comes some of the troubles.

 

You don t realize how much BS it takes to sell stuff(and how many idiots are out there) till u try to sell something u have, it seems like. I never really had any problems when i was the "buyer" but when i try to sell something..... That s where the "sh!theads" come out...- IMHO

 

I watched the same thing happen to the LT1 F-Body world as the LS1's drove the prices of those into the floor.

 

I like it here and am cool with supporting the forum, but alot of people say they "don't want to ship", so deals die before they get started. I have over 2000 transactions on ebay and shipping is a given and paypal is great to deal with most of the time. I think if forum purchases could go as smooth as most ebay purchases, more people would be more rest assured their transactions were safe and go down smoothly. Just my .02 on this topic.

I also agree with the younger C5 owners reference.

 

There, do you feel better now?

 

Hopefully when I get my C5, I can do better than the other younger drivers on the roads today. Makes me ashamed to hear about how my generation is constantly causing trouble for our elders.

 

I am always on the lookout for something, was looking for TI exhaust, no wont ship or wont respond, to those I have brought from you will remember me, thanks for your help.
You can't block gooses and scammers and they are everywhere, shame, they problem with computers is its faceless they can promise the world and change there mind or not deliver, he is not standing in front of you as a man with honour, its hard when your thousands of miles away looking for help and lucky enough I have also been able to help people out on this forum having had to figure most things out myself. End of my rant and understand yours.

 

It's bigger than this Forum. I had a renter want the place, I take down the sign, not want the place, I put the sign up, want the ....... The third time I demanded a signed lease and $$$$$$ on the spot. I agree, it's all about the economy and buyers remorse on spending $$$. Big difference between wants and needs.

 

I have been here since 2003 and let me tell you it's always been this way. The buy/sell forum is full of posers with cars they bought on the secondary market and they get the bug after looking at posts and pictures and they start looking to buy stuff and they make all kinds of commitments and then reality sets in and they start thinking. If it were me I would not have given that guy all of his money no matter what his sob story is. Your sob story is that he stopped you from selling your item to someone else and the excitement has worn off. That's worth something. You had a supercharger set up for sale and it was a great price but it wasn't give away. Only give away stuff sells fast. The rest languishes until someone with a brain and some real money comes by. That may take months or days. I feel just like you do and I have posted several rants like yours. It always gets responses like; it's only worth what people will pay. Wow I feel better too.

 

It's a good thing you don't work in sales for a living.

 

Also agee with this statment . keeping a car like this running and looking good is not cheap it's no honda

 

I hear ya...one trick I have learned is to post up spectacular pictures of everything I sell. It's proof you actually HAVE the item, eliminates tons of back and forth on the item's condition. Also, always pay at least half the paypal fees...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize BOTH parties benefit from the PP process....I am always floored when a seller states "plus 3% Paypal fees"! Like he isn't deriving anything from instant payment? I could go on and on, but you can avoid getting scammed or wasting your time by thinking outside the box a little.

 

Maturity does not come with age, it comes from experience.

The youngsters that you guys claim to be trouble makers are brought up by the parents from your generation. I firmly believe how children turn out is largely depended on how they were raised.

A perfect example of how older people can be less immature than a 21 year old is my accident a few months ago.

Old man pulls out turning left in front of me as I'm going straight on a green light. We sat in the middle of a busy intersection for 30 minutes. I repeatedly asked him to wait at the gas station at the corner with me because it's dangerous to sit in the intersection. He refuses, looks at me like I'm some a-hole. I was very polite the entire time. In fact, the first thing I did after the accident was to walk to his car and see if he was hurt. But the first sentence he says was "I hope you have insurance". He doesn't look at me when he talks, giving a rude look. He claims it was my fault, and tells that to the police.
Luckily, witnesses reported what they saw and the police gave him the ticket. He never apologized, or even looked at me.

Yes I'm aware his insurance paid for my car, but it also wastes my time. If I caused an accident, I would definitely apologize for the inconvenience it has caused to the other party.

I do see young kids from our generation being ridiculous. But I honestly think if their parents had taught them better, it wouldn't be so bad. I think it's wrong for parents to say "not my problem anymore" once the kids turn 18. I don't know about others, but even at almost 22, I'm still confused about a lot of things in life, and I certainly would appreciate those with experience to continue to help me.

I know my parents always taught me right and wrong. And I also know parents of some of my friends did not do their jobs properly.

Ok, my ranting is done too. Hopefully no parent here took offense

 

I must go on CF at least 10X a day when I have a few minutes. As a buyer, I've had nothing but great and honest sellers. That's the difference between Cf and E---. It's like a fraternity here and we watch out for each other. Too bad some just annoy and take advantage, but that's only a few.
Jeff

 

No honesty, no integrity, no personal responsibility is not exclusive to the "younger generation" or just this forum.....listened to any politicians lately?.....

 

Not sure what you mean by that.

 

What you mention happens regardless of where you sell an item - it's just one of the pitfalls that you face when dealing with potential buyers. Sometimes you do get lucky and the transaction goes perfectly smooth, but many times you do have to put up with a lot of .

 

Sometimes problems DO arise. Case in point: I was going to buy a set of wheels/tires here last week. Told the man I would take it. Sure enough a huge problem arose in which I had to allocate my "fun" money. I felt horrible and apologized to him. I have always had A+ dealing shere, Ebay, and several gun forums. However, things do come up unexpectedly.

 

I think he means that if you work in sales for a living, you get a lot of this back and forth all the time and no sale is complete until the contract is signed. "Coffee is for Closers!"