either way good luck!
[Z06] 2001 C5Z ... problems?
Team Owner
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From: Raleigh
Drifting
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From: Atlanta GA
Are the 02's broken valve springs superior to the 01's that hardly ever break too?
Have you ever raced an 01Z against a 02-04Z and seen any real world difference in performance on the street or track? Please provide some verified documentation.
Melting Slicks
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From: b.b. n.j.
like someone said to me the other day when i said speedway white is ugly. he in turn said theres no such thing as an ugly Z06 and you know white theres the truth no such thing as a bad Z06!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Cape Cod MA
Thanks for all the knowledgeable replies and constructive thinking. I'm on the fence between an '01 Z and an '04 Z. The prices are general ballpark range of 22-23500. Here are the differences, and make sure you read my statement after this list:
'01 Z
IN STATE SELLER
Red w/ Mod Red Interior
40k miles
19x9.5 and 20x11 Chrome Z06 replicas wrapped in Toyo T1rs 275/30r19s front and 305/30r20s rear
Borla Stinger quad tip exhaust
VARARAM Intake
B&M Short Throw
Lowered
20% tint
160* Therm
MSD wires
'04 Z
In TEXAS.
85k miles
Red w/ Black Interior
Never seen a track or dyno
Original Documents
Lloyd's mats
Southercarparts tray and partition
Llumar 15% tint
MGW shifter
ported/polished throttle body
Borla stinger catback with billet exhaust plate
lowered on stock bolts
18/18 z06 rims with bfg kdw2 tires
hardwired for valentine or escort radar detector
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
'01 Z
IN STATE SELLER
Red w/ Mod Red Interior
40k miles
19x9.5 and 20x11 Chrome Z06 replicas wrapped in Toyo T1rs 275/30r19s front and 305/30r20s rear
Borla Stinger quad tip exhaust
VARARAM Intake
B&M Short Throw
Lowered
20% tint
160* Therm
MSD wires
'04 Z
In TEXAS.
85k miles
Red w/ Black Interior
Never seen a track or dyno
Original Documents
Lloyd's mats
Southercarparts tray and partition
Llumar 15% tint
MGW shifter
ported/polished throttle body
Borla stinger catback with billet exhaust plate
lowered on stock bolts
18/18 z06 rims with bfg kdw2 tires
hardwired for valentine or escort radar detector
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
Melting Slicks
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From: Folsom Ca
I have an 02 myself but I agree with this 100%/ Too much is made out of it. The 01s are good cars too.
Safety Car
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From: Pasadena, CA
Thanks for all the knowledgeable replies and constructive thinking. I'm on the fence between an '01 Z and an '04 Z. The prices are general ballpark range of 22-23500. Here are the differences, and make sure you read my statement after this list:
'01 Z
IN STATE SELLER
Red w/ Mod Red Interior
40k miles
19x9.5 and 20x11 Chrome Z06 replicas wrapped in Toyo T1rs 275/30r19s front and 305/30r20s rear
Borla Stinger quad tip exhaust
VARARAM Intake
B&M Short Throw
Lowered
20% tint
160* Therm
MSD wires
'04 Z
In TEXAS.
85k miles
Red w/ Black Interior
Never seen a track or dyno
Original Documents
Lloyd's mats
Southercarparts tray and partition
Llumar 15% tint
MGW shifter
ported/polished throttle body
Borla stinger catback with billet exhaust plate
lowered on stock bolts
18/18 z06 rims with bfg kdw2 tires
hardwired for valentine or escort radar detector
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
'01 Z
IN STATE SELLER
Red w/ Mod Red Interior
40k miles
19x9.5 and 20x11 Chrome Z06 replicas wrapped in Toyo T1rs 275/30r19s front and 305/30r20s rear
Borla Stinger quad tip exhaust
VARARAM Intake
B&M Short Throw
Lowered
20% tint
160* Therm
MSD wires
'04 Z
In TEXAS.
85k miles
Red w/ Black Interior
Never seen a track or dyno
Original Documents
Lloyd's mats
Southercarparts tray and partition
Llumar 15% tint
MGW shifter
ported/polished throttle body
Borla stinger catback with billet exhaust plate
lowered on stock bolts
18/18 z06 rims with bfg kdw2 tires
hardwired for valentine or escort radar detector
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
1. I would never considered an 01 in my search for reasons I stated in previous posts.
2. I wouldn't buy the 04 you speak of, too many miles.
Again, this is my opinion.
Drifting
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From: LaPine Oregon
Kelly Blue Book reference guide.........
Using the Kelly Blue Pre Owned Book as reference ( private party owner ) the 2001 Z hardtop with 44,000 lists just at $21 for good condition & $22 for excellant cond.. The 2004 Z hardtop Z using same as above guidlines but with 85K mileage difference . Kelly quotes the '04 in good condition at $20,500, & $22,000 for excellant.
Aftermarket add-ons mean almost nothing monetarily ( I never buy a vehicle with performance add-ons) . Mileage adds $1K to the '04. Now I realize all this has nothing to do with real market value , but was intrigued that 4 years in M/Ys and double the miles would add only one thousand dollars.
Market value is totaly different where supply and damand and econmic condition of the area determine the actual pricing.
Aftermarket add-ons mean almost nothing monetarily ( I never buy a vehicle with performance add-ons) . Mileage adds $1K to the '04. Now I realize all this has nothing to do with real market value , but was intrigued that 4 years in M/Ys and double the miles would add only one thousand dollars.
Market value is totaly different where supply and damand and econmic condition of the area determine the actual pricing.
Last edited by dieseldave56; Jul 30, 2009 at 03:29 PM.
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I found it. Here's the link. Research it for yourself. I don't see an '01 on the stock list until you get to #13:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...fast-list.html
And to put an end to the arguments, the same great driver, Ranger, drove the '01 and the '02 versions, with the same mods (CAI, BFGs), around the same seasonal time (Nov/Dec) and the '02 was significantly faster, we're talking 4 tenths and 4mph. The better 60' could account for some of the ET but not all of it and for mph, in general worse 60' times equal higher trap speeds. 20 extra HP is still 20 extra HP!:
11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--Ranger------'02 11/04-HT CAI, 17" BFG
11.947 @ 116.65--1.823--Ranger -------'01 12/01--HT CAI, BFG DR Slip
Not dissing '01's, love all Z06s. Just pointing out the facts.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...fast-list.html
And to put an end to the arguments, the same great driver, Ranger, drove the '01 and the '02 versions, with the same mods (CAI, BFGs), around the same seasonal time (Nov/Dec) and the '02 was significantly faster, we're talking 4 tenths and 4mph. The better 60' could account for some of the ET but not all of it and for mph, in general worse 60' times equal higher trap speeds. 20 extra HP is still 20 extra HP!:
11.529 @ 120.21--1.641--Ranger------'02 11/04-HT CAI, 17" BFG
11.947 @ 116.65--1.823--Ranger -------'01 12/01--HT CAI, BFG DR Slip
Not dissing '01's, love all Z06s. Just pointing out the facts.
Last edited by Black96WS6; Jul 30, 2009 at 04:32 PM.
Racer
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From: Saginaw Texas
Dude if u like the car get it if u want the 405hp badge then get a 02-04
trust me you will never know the diffrence....
01, 02, 03, 04 they are all great cars and I would consider my self privelidged to have a Z06 no matter what year!!
Last edited by Morfias4twenty; Jul 30, 2009 at 06:47 PM.
Safety Car
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From: Latrobe PA
Dude get over it.. U have to chim in on every 01 thred with the same B.S all the time...
Dude if u like the car get it if u want the 405hp badge then get a 02-04
trust me you will never know the diffrence....
01, 02, 03, 04 they are all great cars and I would consider my self privelidged to have a Z06 no matter what year!!
Dude if u like the car get it if u want the 405hp badge then get a 02-04
trust me you will never know the diffrence....
01, 02, 03, 04 they are all great cars and I would consider my self privelidged to have a Z06 no matter what year!!
Well said! Lets end this I'm better than you attitude! I just joined this group about a week ago and there sure are some attitude problems!! Never had this on the C6 forum.
Pro
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If you don't plan on changing the cam, the 01's have a smaller cam compared to the 02+. A bigger issue to me would be excessive oil consumption problems that some 01's have. Unless you're buying the car from the original owner(you can ask him questions), I wouldn't buy an 01. Again, this is just MY opinion.
You're going to have some 01 owners jumping in this thread claiming the 01's are just as good as the 02+. Well, they're not. I'm not saying the 01's are bad cars, the 02+ are just better. If you don't mind the 01's being underpowered a bit and possible oll consumption problems, by all means buy one.
Really? Again?! You post crap like this almost daily around here in every '01 Z06 thread that comes up. I'd jump on a soapbox and publicly lecture you about the misinformation you so frequently spread, but there is little point. Our more intelligent forum members (both old and new) will know how to search for the actual facts...
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Thanks for all the knowledgeable replies and constructive thinking. I'm on the fence between an '01 Z and an '04 Z. The prices are general ballpark range of 22-23500.
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
Now, before you go ahead and say "whatever floats your boat", I already know that. I'm one, listing the difference in the two on this post so I have a reference to look at, and at the same time, and two, asking the forum (which will have little imput to say on which I buy, IF I even buy either one of these, but is still imput) what they think.
Oh, and it'll be a DD.
Since you are asking for opinions, mine would be that the '01 is the better deal because of the lower mileage. A local seller will be easier to deal with, and, of course, a torch red Z06 with a mod red interior is the bomb. Also consider that the '01 will cost less to register and insure each year (in most states, anyway).
LO PHAT
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Since you are asking for opinions, mine would be that the '01 is the better deal because of the lower mileage. A local seller will be easier to deal with, and, of course, a torch red Z06 with a mod red interior is the bomb. Also consider that the '01 will cost less to register and insure each year (in most states, anyway).
LO PHAT
LO PHAT
If you buy the '04 with 85k miles to start, where do you think you'll be in a few years since you plan to daily drive it?
If you get the '01, you have a few years before you even reach the '04s mileage.... and it's already close to the bottom of depreciation anyway..
I vote for the '01, and that's not because I happen to own one. I'm saying it because it would be a wise choice overall.
p.s.- I'd give anything if my red Zo6 had mod-red interior! Lucky to find it
You know point A to point B. 
Drifting
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From: LaPine Oregon
After all this is the CF..........
I must say that I'm happy to read posts from those that speak out in favor of keeping attitudes from spoiling the CF. This forum is much different than any of the many number of specialized forums that I frequent because of my various collectable cars in that the members are quick to help , indulgent with newbies and leave the egos at the door.
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From: stop the fun suckers
one reason I didnt buy an '01 when I was looking was because i didnt want to deal with having to defend them all the time on the forum... there better.. but just not the best C5.. and that was something I didnt want to deal with...
if there is a real performance difference or not is irrelevant in my book because the real factor is the perceived difference in performance which effects resale.. usually the '01's are cheaper to get in to.. and therefore dont net as much at sale time.. either way.. they are all good cars..
as for the two cars above.. I would pass on them both and keep looking.. although if I had to pick I think I woudl take the '04.. had lots of little tweaks along the way.. and a few years less of degradation from exposure to life.. (UV sun fading, seals aging, etc..etc..)
if there is a real performance difference or not is irrelevant in my book because the real factor is the perceived difference in performance which effects resale.. usually the '01's are cheaper to get in to.. and therefore dont net as much at sale time.. either way.. they are all good cars..
as for the two cars above.. I would pass on them both and keep looking.. although if I had to pick I think I woudl take the '04.. had lots of little tweaks along the way.. and a few years less of degradation from exposure to life.. (UV sun fading, seals aging, etc..etc..)
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one reason I didnt buy an '01 when I was looking was because i didnt want to deal with having to defend them all the time on the forum... there better.. but just not the best C5.. and that was something I didnt want to deal with...
if there is a real performance difference or not is irrelevant in my book because the real factor is the perceived difference in performance which effects resale.. usually the '01's are cheaper to get in to.. and therefore dont net as much at sale time.. either way.. they are all good cars..
as for the two cars above.. I would pass on them both and keep looking.. although if I had to pick I think I woudl take the '04.. had lots of little tweaks along the way.. and a few years less of degradation from exposure to life.. (UV sun fading, seals aging, etc..etc..)
if there is a real performance difference or not is irrelevant in my book because the real factor is the perceived difference in performance which effects resale.. usually the '01's are cheaper to get in to.. and therefore dont net as much at sale time.. either way.. they are all good cars..
as for the two cars above.. I would pass on them both and keep looking.. although if I had to pick I think I woudl take the '04.. had lots of little tweaks along the way.. and a few years less of degradation from exposure to life.. (UV sun fading, seals aging, etc..etc..)
My '01 is in the garage sitting, getting zero exposure, not being in rush hour traffic with double the miles.
Those few tweaks aside from the normal '02+ stuff is just a set of shocks. Whoop-dee-doo