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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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I have the oil pressure sending unit problem. I've read the DIY proceedure. Being that I'm a shadetree style mechanic, I'm a little intimidated by the intake manifold movement. I've heard that there is a proceedure where a hole is drilled through a cowl above the sensor. Are there any pics of that proccedure? Has anybody done this? Thoughts or tips are greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Do the intake-it's not a big deal. There is a post on the hole drilling, used the advanced search to find it. If you have a torque wrench and the fuel line seperation tool, do the right thing and pull the intake and do a relocation kit to move it to a more accessable place. You'll be a wiser DYI'er when your done and know how/where to replace the knock sensors when they go.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Do it the right way - pull the manifold. It's not difficult at all.

Next thing you know, someone will be drilling through the intake to change a bad knock sensor.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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pulling the intake manifold is really simple, took me less than 10mins. plumbed some new lines and re-routed my OP and now if it goes out all i have to do is pull my frc and bam there she is. Worth the time to do it right and not hack at your lady. -=]
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Fuel line separation tool? Can I rent one? Expensive to purchase. How about the manifold gaskets? They are made of rubber arent they? Can I reuse them or go with a new set.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Fuel line tool looks like this (one type anyway)



Manifold gaskets can be reused as long as no tears are present.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Fuel line separation tool? Can I rent one? Expensive to purchase. How about the manifold gaskets? They are made of rubber arent they? Can I reuse them or go with a new set.
Nope, you can get them any were and there not expensive.. I usually pull the Fuel pump fuse and run the car until it dies then the lines are depressurized.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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It takes about an hour to remove the manifold and replace the sensor...
I did not use a fuel line separation tool.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Well I just read all 29 pages of the DIY pages. Seeing that the failure rate is pretty high and I'm probably going to have the replace the gizmo more than once, I'm gonna go with the hole in the cowling route. I think I'll order one from Chevy and take advantage of the 1 year warranty. If its really bad I'll go with he relocation kit. I want to say thanks to all for your inputs. Thanks again from a new-be!
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Originally Posted by Mrgogo
Well I just read all 29 pages of the DIY pages. Seeing that the failure rate is pretty high and I'm probably going to have the replace the gizmo more than once, I'm gonna go with the hole in the cowling route. I think I'll order one from Chevy and take advantage of the 1 year warranty. If its really bad I'll go with he relocation kit. I want to say thanks to all for your inputs. Thanks again from a new-be!
Bet you regret it this way. 29 PAGES, what are you reading? 2-3 pages should cover the whole thing.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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I wanted to get a good feel for what others were doing and what I think I'm capable of doing.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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What are you going to do when you have to replace your HVAC vacuum line, drill a hole in the firewall?
Seriously, go with removing the intake. You really don't need to REMOVE it, just unbolt it so that you can slide it forward. You will be able to move it forward enough to get to the OP unit.
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Originally Posted by Mrgogo
I wanted to get a good feel for what others were doing and what I think I'm capable of doing.
It's actually MORE work to cut the hole, plus you have a hole you have to patch to keep water out of the back of the engine. Many people have a hard time getting the wipers off and the plastic under them can crack especially if the car sits out alot and the plastic has gotten brittle.
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What's the final torque on the intake manifold?

I need to do my pressure unit too......in the meanwhile I don't trust the gauge as it's pegged out :^) I trust that the pressure is actually normal.

Does someone actually sell ..."the Kit"?? A conversion kit.? thanks
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Just don't kink/break the gasket and you're good. Try it yourself, you'll feel MUCH better when you accomplish it.
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Originally Posted by Oh 2 Fun
What's the final torque on the intake manifold?

I need to do my pressure unit too......in the meanwhile I don't trust the gauge as it's pegged out :^) I trust that the pressure is actually normal.

Does someone actually sell ..."the Kit"?? A conversion kit.? thanks
This is a complete kit or just the wiring.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...ation-kit.html
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 03:45 AM
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i paid to have mine done...it was 125 for the install and two weeks later the sensor went bad again...the ASE mechanic did it again and its been a little over a year and not one problem.
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Originally Posted by 2000lambovette
This is a complete kit or just the wiring.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-p...ation-kit.html
Thanks man.....cool. ....I actually look forward to my first adventure in taking this motor apart....or at least an easy piece or two....lol
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Originally Posted by Mrgogo
Well I just read all 29 pages of the DIY pages. Seeing that the failure rate is pretty high and I'm probably going to have the replace the gizmo more than once, I'm gonna go with the hole in the cowling route. I think I'll order one from Chevy and take advantage of the 1 year warranty. If its really bad I'll go with he relocation kit. I want to say thanks to all for your inputs. Thanks again from a new-be!
Did you read the post last week where the guy cut the hole in the cowl (and also cut some wires in the process but didn't know it) and had all kinds of problems. I still don't know if his car is fixed yet.

I'm another one that believes that if you have to do it. Do it the right way, pull the intake. I have nothing against a shortcut if it works, but not at the expense of chopping up the car and causing possibly even more damage.

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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Oh 2 Fun
What's the final torque on the intake manifold?

I need to do my pressure unit too......in the meanwhile I don't trust the gauge as it's pegged out :^) I trust that the pressure is actually normal.

Does someone actually sell ..."the Kit"?? A conversion kit.? thanks
Here's what I used to replace/relocate my sensor:

From Summit Racing

Autometer adapter ATM-2268
Earls fitting 982303ERL
Russel line RUS-658080
Russel fitting RUS-660410

From Lowes

Brass fitting 1/4 male to 1/8 female
Brass fitting 1/4 to 1/4 female

From Gene Culley gmpartshouse.com

Buick sensor 12584940

Here's what the finished product looks like:

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