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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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any advantage to 93 over 91 octane gas on a stock z06, no mods, no tune etc., what if you get tune?? I say no, you opinions.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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I think the BCM advances the timing until the knock modules sense some ping/detonation and then back off the timing a little.. more octane usually means more resistance to knock.. hence I think you get a tad more power... not enough to worry about probably..
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From the FAQ:

Engines
5.7L (LS1) V8 5.7L (LS6) V8
V8 Application: STD on Coupe, Convertible STD on Z06
Type: 5.7-liter OHV
Block Material: Cast aluminum
Displacement (cu in/cc): 350 / 5665
Bore x stroke (in/mm): 3.90 x 3.62 / 99.0 x 92.0
Cylinder head material: Cast aluminum
Valvetrain: Overhead valve, two valves per cylinder
Fuel delivery: SFI
Compression ratio: 10.1:1 10.5:1
Horsepower/kilowatts: 350 / 261 @ 5600 rpm 405 / 302 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft/Nm) 375 / 508 @4400 (manual)
360 / 489 @4000 (automatic) 400 / 542 @ 4800 rpm
Recommended Fuel 91 Octane
Maximum Engine Speed 6000 rpm 6500 rpm
Emission control system: Catalytic converter AIR
EPA Estimated Fuel economy (mpg city/hwy/comb) 19/28/23 (manual transmission on coupe and convertible
18/25/21 (automatic transmission on coupe and convertible) 19/28/23 (manual transmission Z06)
Also, Gasoline and octane facts.

Should help.
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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I do get some pinging on hotter days here in Socal with the 91 octane fuels we have here. If you have 93 available, I'd use it.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Romulus
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Also, Gasoline and octane facts.

Should help.


If everyone read this the gas companies would sell a whole lot less "premium" fuel. It's one thing to put 93 instead of 91 in a car with 10.5:1 compression, but the number of sheep who put it in their Cavalier and don't need it is scary. And just try explaining it to them.
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yeah, agree with you. I have tried repeatedly to tell some people they don't need premium, even oil companies and car companies say use only what needed to keep car from pinging (detonation) but people still think "more is better" like many do in everything in life
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by James92
I do get some pinging on hotter days here in Socal with the 91 octane fuels we have here. If you have 93 available, I'd use it.
Get a knock--use 104 octane booster-knock gone
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Yes yes, some gas stations around where I live used to have a "premium for the price of regular!" sale for one day of the week. The lines were huge! One gas station had to hire security just to help with traffic control. And oooooh people would get mad if you cut in front of them. For me at the time, I needed premium anyway ('96 Impala SS heavily tuned). But to see these people with their cars in the lines was truly a sight to behold. Old beat up Cavaliers, early 80's Hondas, even newer economy cars with stock engines... they were all there. And the people were usually Arkansas' finest, the kind of people you'd see on Jerry Springer. They were all hell bent on the notion that they're get better gas mileage and a lot more horsepower from the 91 octane, and you could NOT convince them otherwise.

With regards to the "Gasoline and octane facts" FAQ, I've always been curious why some states like Colorado have lower octane at the pump. Their "regular" is 85 instead of the 87 I see in most areas. And the FAQ says that higher octane is needed in higher altitudes. I'm so curious.
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Originally Posted by JimbeauZ06


If everyone read this the gas companies would sell a whole lot less "premium" fuel. It's one thing to put 93 instead of 91 in a car with 10.5:1 compression, but the number of sheep who put it in their Cavalier and don't need it is scary. And just try explaining it to them.
Yep. My dumb friend won't listen to me about that. He puts it in his saturn all the time. I told him it won't help him at all and he's wasting his money, but he just doesn't listen. Whatever, it's his money.
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Originally Posted by tvlance
Yes yes, some gas stations around where I live used to have a "premium for the price of regular!" sale for one day of the week. The lines were huge! One gas station had to hire security just to help with traffic control. And oooooh people would get mad if you cut in front of them. For me at the time, I needed premium anyway ('96 Impala SS heavily tuned). But to see these people with their cars in the lines was truly a sight to behold. Old beat up Cavaliers, early 80's Hondas, even newer economy cars with stock engines... they were all there. And the people were usually Arkansas' finest, the kind of people you'd see on Jerry Springer. They were all hell bent on the notion that they're get better gas mileage and a lot more horsepower from the 91 octane, and you could NOT convince them otherwise.

With regards to the "Gasoline and octane facts" FAQ, I've always been curious why some states like Colorado have lower octane at the pump. Their "regular" is 85 instead of the 87 I see in most areas. And the FAQ says that higher octane is needed in higher altitudes. I'm so curious.
I thought because the air is thinner at higher altitudes, then less fuel is required, so engines tend to run rich protecting from detonation.
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less air means richer (more gas) thus less octane maybe??
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I thought because the air is thinner at higher altitudes, then less fuel is required, so engines tend to run rich protecting from detonation.
The ECM automatically compensates for different air pressure. Less fuel will be injected at higher altitudes. One of the huge advantages over carburetors.
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Originally Posted by slwhite
The ECM automatically compensates for different air pressure. Less fuel will be injected at higher altitudes. One of the huge advantages over carburetors.
except for vapor locking
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Custome tune, can only run 93 (would only run it without the tune also)
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