What Air Intake To Install ?
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I like the looks of this dual cone chrome intake system at WCC. Has anyone tried this type/results?
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-2...5-logo-c5.aspx
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-2...5-logo-c5.aspx
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I like the looks of this dual cone chrome intake system at WCC. Has anyone tried this type/results?
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-2...5-logo-c5.aspx
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-2...5-logo-c5.aspx
http://www.vetteworksintl.com/c5intakesystems.html
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2022 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2021 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
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Finalist 2020 C7 of the Year -- Modified
2020 C5 of the Year Finalist - Modified
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2018 C5 of Year Finalist
Check these guys out if ya want powdercoated pipes...i've been thinking about the red, but not sure if it'll match my 01 mag red....
http://www.vetteworksintl.com/c5intakesystems.html
http://www.vetteworksintl.com/c5intakesystems.html
Thanks. I wish they showed pics of the powdercoated pipes...
I've seen both the chrome and the stainless up close and the chrome really pops!
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But which ones produce 30-40hp that you mentioned above?
The highly touted VARARAM and HONKER produce approx. 16-18hp according to which ad or article you read.
Most performance modification horsepower improvements are achieved at rpm levels that few street cars operate at...at least for any sustained period of time. And then they require a tune to actually see full benefit. So, is it the modification or the tune that increases the performance?
Otherwise, owners do it mostly for appearance, sound, bragging rights or bench racing.
The highly touted VARARAM and HONKER produce approx. 16-18hp according to which ad or article you read.
Most performance modification horsepower improvements are achieved at rpm levels that few street cars operate at...at least for any sustained period of time. And then they require a tune to actually see full benefit. So, is it the modification or the tune that increases the performance?
Otherwise, owners do it mostly for appearance, sound, bragging rights or bench racing.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-ecs-tune.html
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First of all, I'm not a tuner or a racer. I'm just expressing common sense and past experience of buying into advertising/manufacturers gimmick products like most enthusiasts do at some point.
Not all performance products lend themselves to improving power on cars that are primarily used for A-B transportation. Some of them can actually reduce power and reliability. If the car is tracked, that might be a different story.
From reading your other thread, it sounds like you're getting good advice from the other two members. Select a quality air intake (HONKER is certainly well thought of) and maximize it with the services of a qualified tuner.
Not all performance products lend themselves to improving power on cars that are primarily used for A-B transportation. Some of them can actually reduce power and reliability. If the car is tracked, that might be a different story.
From reading your other thread, it sounds like you're getting good advice from the other two members. Select a quality air intake (HONKER is certainly well thought of) and maximize it with the services of a qualified tuner.
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First of all, I'm not a tuner or a racer. I'm just expressing common sense and past experience of buying into advertising/manufacturers gimmick products like most enthusiasts do at some point.
Not all performance products lend themselves to improving power on cars that are primarily used for A-B transportation. Some of them can actually reduce power and reliability. If the car is tracked, that might be a different story.
From reading your other thread, it sounds like you're getting good advice from the other two members. Select a quality air intake (HONKER is certainly well thought of) and maximize it with the services of a qualified tuner.
Not all performance products lend themselves to improving power on cars that are primarily used for A-B transportation. Some of them can actually reduce power and reliability. If the car is tracked, that might be a different story.
From reading your other thread, it sounds like you're getting good advice from the other two members. Select a quality air intake (HONKER is certainly well thought of) and maximize it with the services of a qualified tuner.
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From: lockport n.y
vararams are nice but remember ANY resistance (any bend, corner,etc.) the shorter the better. adding 1 90 degree bend to an intake tube is like adding 3ft of strait pipe. also that there is about a 1" buffer of stagnant air that sits in front of your car at speed (why ram air hoods with intakes up on hood work.) the BIG thing to look for is any intake that is using air from outside the engine compartment, there's a usually a 30-40HP diff....check out callaway honker also.
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I think they have the chrome ones too....
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the 30-40HP i'm talking about are the true difference of an intake that places the air intake filter inside the engine compartment (stock, blackwing) and one that uses air from outside engine compartment (vararam,honker).
SO if u have your filter using under hood air and u got to a dyno day and to two pulls...have them close the hood for one dyno pull you will see 30-40hp drop just from the engine heat. now on a dyno your hood it up so the hood is not holding in the heat and cars on dyno pulls are warmed up but not hot. and as you know hot air is bad for HP.
So for all intent and purposes the intakes like the vararam and honker use pressurized air from out side engine bay can use air that's easily 200 degree's cooler than air from under your hood during normal driving conditions which u know cold air is easier to compress in to a piston with more fuel which means MORE HP!!!!
not gonna lie im a bit more for the honker i mean i've never seen callaway make anything i didn't like and like i said our car has over 200 dyno pulls on it and has had extensive testing at Atlanta drag way and silver dollar with like air conditions with every intake said here and ones like the honker, vararam, and cyclone were much better than ones that used "engine bay air" (they stood out more when hood closed of course, but who drives with hood up?)
SO if u have your filter using under hood air and u got to a dyno day and to two pulls...have them close the hood for one dyno pull you will see 30-40hp drop just from the engine heat. now on a dyno your hood it up so the hood is not holding in the heat and cars on dyno pulls are warmed up but not hot. and as you know hot air is bad for HP.
So for all intent and purposes the intakes like the vararam and honker use pressurized air from out side engine bay can use air that's easily 200 degree's cooler than air from under your hood during normal driving conditions which u know cold air is easier to compress in to a piston with more fuel which means MORE HP!!!!
not gonna lie im a bit more for the honker i mean i've never seen callaway make anything i didn't like and like i said our car has over 200 dyno pulls on it and has had extensive testing at Atlanta drag way and silver dollar with like air conditions with every intake said here and ones like the honker, vararam, and cyclone were much better than ones that used "engine bay air" (they stood out more when hood closed of course, but who drives with hood up?)
Last edited by killerREDvette; Sep 29, 2009 at 12:22 AM.
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Vararam all the way!
http://www.shop.jwmotoring.com/produ...&categoryId=27
Contact me for a shipping quote to you.
Those cone type intakes just don't provide the power you feel once you install the VR. I used to have one.
If you're worried about the large amounts of trash install some Z06 screens. Vetteshop (forum vendor) has the best replicas for a good price.
http://www.shop.jwmotoring.com/produ...&categoryId=27
Contact me for a shipping quote to you.
Those cone type intakes just don't provide the power you feel once you install the VR. I used to have one.
If you're worried about the large amounts of trash install some Z06 screens. Vetteshop (forum vendor) has the best replicas for a good price.
VARARAM. Only one that is proven on the track. Might not see a lot of results on the dyno, but its because this one is truly a ram air
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30-40rwhp, as measured by a dyno, is a hell of a lot of power for an intake change. Air under a hood isn't exactly stagnent, except when you're not moving.