[Z06] Recall Refused
Drifting
Joined: May 2009
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From: Central Texas
1) I highly doubt you could pull that off. Others have tried this and failed. Some have even have had the recall done without their permission (their cars where at the dealership for other services and the dealer simply performed the open recall work). Even if the service advisor were to agree to it, the technician will still likely follow the exact steps outlined in the GM service bulletin protocol.
2) As others have said, none of the recalls actually solve the problem. They may keep the steering wheel from locking for safety while driving, but it will not prevent you from one day being stranded when the solenoid freezes and your car won't start.
It just isn't worth it. Get a column lock bypass kit.
LO PHAT
2) As others have said, none of the recalls actually solve the problem. They may keep the steering wheel from locking for safety while driving, but it will not prevent you from one day being stranded when the solenoid freezes and your car won't start.
It just isn't worth it. Get a column lock bypass kit.
LO PHAT
Racer
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Datil NM
you don't need the recall if you do the bypass. It won't hurt, but why pay for something you are going to disconnect? You only need the column to unlock one time when you install the bypass. After the bypass is in, the solenoid is disconnected and it doesn't matter if it was acting up. The only reason I would get it done is if you can't drive the car.
Drifting
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From: Central Texas
you don't need the recall if you do the bypass. It won't hurt, but why pay for something you are going to disconnect? You only need the column to unlock one time when you install the bypass. After the bypass is in, the solenoid is disconnected and it doesn't matter if it was acting up. The only reason I would get it done is if you can't drive the car.
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2002
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From: Corpus Christi Tx.
FYI - From the gov recall website -
Are there any limitations on my right to have a recalled vehicle remedied at no charge?
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallprocess.cfm
Yes. There is a limitation based on the age of the vehicle. In order to be eligible for a free remedy, the vehicle cannot be more than 10 years old on the date the defect or noncompliance is determined. Under the law, the age of the vehicle is calculated from the date of sale to the first purchaser. For example, if a defect is found in 2003 and a recall ordered, manufacturers are required to make the correction available at no charge only for vehicles purchased new in 1994 through 2003. However, consumers should realize that even though manufacturers are not obligated to remedy safety defects in older cars, a safety problem might still exist. If you receive notification of a defect on a vehicle older than 10 years, take the responsibility to have your car repaired at your own expense – and eliminate unnecessary safety risks.
Remember it is a preventive measure to Install the Bypass BEFORE the Column Lock Happens ! Can you say "Column Bypass Lock " will get you back on the road for $49.95 plus shipping.
Are there any limitations on my right to have a recalled vehicle remedied at no charge?
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallprocess.cfm
Yes. There is a limitation based on the age of the vehicle. In order to be eligible for a free remedy, the vehicle cannot be more than 10 years old on the date the defect or noncompliance is determined. Under the law, the age of the vehicle is calculated from the date of sale to the first purchaser. For example, if a defect is found in 2003 and a recall ordered, manufacturers are required to make the correction available at no charge only for vehicles purchased new in 1994 through 2003. However, consumers should realize that even though manufacturers are not obligated to remedy safety defects in older cars, a safety problem might still exist. If you receive notification of a defect on a vehicle older than 10 years, take the responsibility to have your car repaired at your own expense – and eliminate unnecessary safety risks.
Remember it is a preventive measure to Install the Bypass BEFORE the Column Lock Happens ! Can you say "Column Bypass Lock " will get you back on the road for $49.95 plus shipping.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Houston Texas
Ok, my Z had the column lock recall in 2004. It's been 5 years or so. Just a few months now in my possession. Should I install this column lock bypass before the column lock potentially fails again? I think it is a reasonable cost and if it comes with a little diagram, it sounds easy to do. Please let me know b/c this can eliminate one of the big 3 issues (column lock, ABS/Traction control module, and Valve spring failure).
Dealer charges 2 grand to do the column lock repair--I just asked my serv. guy a week ago if he has seen the recalled vettes fail again and he said yes. I was like 2 grand
Valve spring job is next on my list as preventive. (Dealer said 1200, but I think that is high by 3 to 400 bucks).
I believe the ABS/Traction issue as an affordable option over the dealer too. (My vette has had this repaired per the dealer records as well)
Thanks.
Dealer charges 2 grand to do the column lock repair--I just asked my serv. guy a week ago if he has seen the recalled vettes fail again and he said yes. I was like 2 grand
Valve spring job is next on my list as preventive. (Dealer said 1200, but I think that is high by 3 to 400 bucks).
I believe the ABS/Traction issue as an affordable option over the dealer too. (My vette has had this repaired per the dealer records as well)
Thanks.
Last edited by Texan1Z06; Nov 17, 2009 at 01:05 AM.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Phoenix Arizona
Today I went to my local dealer regarding recall GMP06-029-05081 (electronic column lock system). they refused to honor the recall and said I could pay $450.00 for a replacement lock assembly. Called GM Customer Service at 800-222-1020 and they would not reverse the dealership decision. My '02 Z06 displays "remove key,wait 10 seconds,retry". If I do not my cars stearing locks up and the fuel shuts off, creating the precise senario the recall is designed to prevent. Any ideas on how to get GM to pony up and back up their recall?
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Drifting
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From: Central Texas
I'm not 'playing' with anyone, I have a concern about my car and I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't want to get caught up in internet hype either. To be honest it doesn't look good when you have Corvettes of Dallas in here selling a by-pass kits along side others saying it's a MUST.
Racer
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Datil NM
I'm not 'playing' with anyone, I have a concern about my car and I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't want to get caught up in internet hype either. To be honest it doesn't look good when you have Corvettes of Dallas in here selling a by-pass kits along side others saying it's a MUST.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: PNW
I'm not 'playing' with anyone, I have a concern about my car and I'm trying to figure out what to do. I don't want to get caught up in internet hype either. To be honest it doesn't look good when you have Corvettes of Dallas in here selling a by-pass kits along side others saying it's a MUST.
Here ... read this, 23 pages of info. You make the decision.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...gm-merged.html
Last edited by ZeeOSix; Nov 18, 2009 at 03:01 AM.
It works and that's all that matters.
Pro
Joined: Apr 2007
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I understand your concerns and fears with this whole thing. I went through it a few years ago myself, and I did TONS of research on the issue. Unfortunately for me, both of my C5 Corvettes had already had the second recall performed before I bought them. I still installed a CLB in each of them, but there is nothing I can do about the "fuel cut-off" flash on the computers.
How many different ways can I say this to you? You are lucky if no prior column lock recalls have been performed on your car. You have an opportunity to prevent a dealership from flashing the computer, and you can fix your car the right way with a CLB. Of course the dealership will do the work for you at no charge! They (owners, service advisor, technician, etc) all get paid by GM for performing the recall. Why let them alter your car's factory programming?! Why risk service department damage to your Corvette?!?! They will make a quick dollar, and you may one day be left stranded in a parking lot with no fuel to your Corvette's engine.
But as others have said, it's your car...
LO PHAT
Race Director
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
I got my by-pass form Corvettes of Dallas.
Great Product and easy to install. It really is a must do item if you don't want to get stuck somewhere.
Mine went out in the driveway.
Great Product and easy to install. It really is a must do item if you don't want to get stuck somewhere.
Mine went out in the driveway.
5th Gear
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By pass mod.
My Z has 20k on the clock, although it’s used for trips and some daily driving. It gets quit a bit of autocrossing, which means the steering column gets locked and unlocked twenty to thirty times in a six-hour period. There have been no problems concerning the column lock. We’re the forth owner, the history is unknown. I know it had been raced hard as the control arm bushing were shot when we bought it (9k miles). My question is, where do I look for the bypass mod? I don’t what to order one and find that it has been already installed.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Los Angeles California
My Z has 20k on the clock, although it’s used for trips and some daily driving. It gets quit a bit of autocrossing, which means the steering column gets locked and unlocked twenty to thirty times in a six-hour period. There have been no problems concerning the column lock. We’re the forth owner, the history is unknown. I know it had been raced hard as the control arm bushing were shot when we bought it (9k miles). My question is, where do I look for the bypass mod? I don’t what to order one and find that it has been already installed.
"AlohaC5" Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: Madison, AL
I would get it out of there fast...
Part of the recall is the fuel cut-off programming ("flash") as a safety measure if the steering column should happen to lock while driving. If your car has never had any of the column lock recalls done (there were three of them as I recall), don't let the dealer mess with it. Install a column lock bypass kit, and be done with it.
LO PHAT
Part of the recall is the fuel cut-off programming ("flash") as a safety measure if the steering column should happen to lock while driving. If your car has never had any of the column lock recalls done (there were three of them as I recall), don't let the dealer mess with it. Install a column lock bypass kit, and be done with it.
LO PHAT
Don't let the dealership flash your computer - get the column lock bypass kit. Save yourself a headache. Many vendors sell them.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2002
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From: PNW
If there is no CLB installed (or if the recall hasn't been done), then you will hear about a 1 second sound coming from the steering column every time you remove the key or install the key and turn it to the ON position. That is the sound of the the little motor moving the locking pin in or out. Make sure the radio etc is off so you can listen.