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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Someone tell me why GM thought ANYTHING about the popup headlights were a good idea?

Between broken/stripped motor gears to horrible output to broken/seized alignment gears, i'm ready to buy a C6...



seriously. my headlights are focused probably 15ft in front of the car and now i cant fix it
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Bummer. Yeah you need a C6
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Never had any problems...and the gears can be replaced with brass ones. I personally love the pop-up headlight look. Too bad they have disappeared. They used to be a key component of every serious sports car and gave the car a very sleek look. Why don't you go with some fixed headlights like the Depo ones if you don't like them? Indy
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Never had any problems...and the gears can be replaced with brass ones. I personally love the pop-up headlight look. Too bad they have disappeared. They used to be a key component of every serious sports car and gave the car a very sleek look. Why don't you go with some fixed headlights like the Depo ones if you don't like them? Indy
i have brass gears
if switching the headlights on and off 18 times doesnt get them to pop up, i have to open the hood and manually loosen the motor to get the lights to come up

and the fixed headlights look like frog eyes
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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If the lights are your only concern, contact TheRadioFlyer for some Light Cannons, or find a set of ACAs. You will get modern HID lighting and retain your OEM looks.
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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If the lights are your only concern, contact TheRadioFlyer for some Light Cannons, or find a set of ACAs. You will get modern HID lighting and retain your OEM looks.
does that replace the OEM alignment hardware?
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Someone tell me why GM thought ANYTHING about the popup headlights were a good idea?


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My passenger side headlight stripped the plastic gear. Since the motor only rotates 90 degrees to fully open, I simply unhooked the linkage, rotated motor 90 degrees and hooked back together. Only 96,000 miles on plastic gear!!! If it will last 96,000 more on this half of the plastic gear, I may put in brass for longevity!!! Damn cheap plastic!!
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Touche... LOL but my gif is funnier.

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Originally Posted by bigleman
does that replace the OEM alignment hardware?
He is also building (think there is a GP currently running) some non pop-up for the C5. And they don't stick up past the hood/fender line. Some thing to consider - no matter how expensive they are - they will be cheaper then a C6.
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Originally Posted by bigleman
Someone tell me why GM thought ANYTHING about the popup headlights were a good idea?


Pop-ups answer a question that no longer needs to be asked. They do, however, look better than the frog-eye kits. Nice flush ones like the Breathless Performance set up look pretty cool -- but they are $$$$ and I understand a bit fragile...
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There's a side benefit to the pop-ups that I'm sure GM didn't take into account when they designed them though, in these days of LIDAR guns, they can't lock onto headlamps that aren't up!
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I love the stealth look of pop ups, however I have not had any mechanical problems with them (yet). If I do run into problems, I plan to get the brass components.

I would also suggest that you get a set of HID fog lights. The 4300 temp is bright enough to light the road without the pop ups.
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I like the hidden headlight look also, and I have not had any problems with the headlights on either of the three C5s or four C4s that I owned. I guess if I ever do have problems with the gears, my opinion might just change.
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Originally Posted by bigleman
does that replace the OEM alignment hardware?
The Light Cannons from TheRadioFlyer replaces the OEM adjustment hardware.
The ACAs do not, they use the same mounting and adjustment hardware, only the entire headlight capsule is replaced.
But with a bit of shopping you can find replacement parts to replace your adjustment rods and/or gears.......many have. Just post a WTB in the For Sale section and look on eBay. These items will last a long time IF they are lubed where the gears mesh

Either way, a lot less $$ than a C6
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Originally Posted by bigleman
i have brass gears
if switching the headlights on and off 18 times doesnt get them to pop up, i have to open the hood and manually loosen the motor to get the lights to come up

and the fixed headlights look like frog eyes
Sounds like either you have a bad headlight motor or the motor wasn't installed correctly after the gear was replaced
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I've not had any problems with my pop up's. Just wait until you have to replace a C6 unit and tell us what that will cost.
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Originally Posted by bigleman
Someone tell me why GM thought ANYTHING about the popup headlights were a good idea?

Between broken/stripped motor gears to horrible output to broken/seized alignment gears, i'm ready to buy a C6...



seriously. my headlights are focused probably 15ft in front of the car and now i cant fix it
I can see why you have problems with your headlight gears. Everything up there is either corroded or rusty. Try a little LPS2 every once and a while.
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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I just installed a HID kit from JW Motoring(excellent),so I had to adjust both of mine.
Of course,all 4 adjusters were frozen(no corrosion,just hadn't been moved for years).

I put a few drops of oil on each one,let it soak in for a few minutes,worked them back and forth a little,
till the oil got where it needed to go,and now they all work smooth as butter.

A little oil,and a little patience is all it takes-if you rush it,something's gonna break.

And when the motor gears wear out,I'll get brass ones-
nothing lasts forever.

Except maybe the classic looks of a C5 Vette with popup headlights!
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