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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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I am thinking about installing a chin spoiler on my 04 coupe.

Will the removal of the air dam effect the engine temps or does the chin spoiler still direct enough air onto the radiator?

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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What type of chin spoiler are you thing of using?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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A chin spoiler wouldn't make it out of my driveway.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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I have an ACI with a Vararam, problem solved.

My bad, dumb post.

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I am planning the splitter for mine, and I have been looking at the ACI. I understand that it does cause the temp to increase a few degrees. Although when I read that post, it did not say where they were located. I too am in Florida,and that is something I need to look into prior to making the purchase. On a side note, I just order a low profile rear deck spoiler (not a wing) from RPI Designs, and they are in the process of designing a true front splitter modeled after the ZR1 splitter but for the C5.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I have an ACI with a Vararam, problem solved.
The Vararam isn't helping your cooling system at all
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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With the ACI front splitter you leave the center section of the airdam in place which is the piece that directs air into the radiator. You will lose some of the air as the ACI splitter does block some of the air heading in that direction BUT you will still be ok...

I ran and ACI fron splitter for 4 years on my old C5 and used the car at the track with no problems. There was a slight increase in coolant temps but nothing to cause problems..

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
With the ACI front splitter you leave the center section of the airdam in place which is the piece that directs air into the radiator. You will lose some of the air as the ACI splitter does block some of the air heading in that direction BUT you will still be ok...

I ran and ACI fron splitter for 4 years on my old C5 and used the car at the track with no problems. There was a slight increase in coolant temps but nothing to cause problems..

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I would like a chin spoiler on my vert. How about this set up intake? Will I have a temp problem with this system? Would I need to change the stat too?

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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I would like a chin spoiler on my vert. How about this set up intake? Will I have a temp problem with this system? Would I need to change the stat too?

Laurie

Vortex Rammer. Same as I have on mine. Once I put the ACI front splitter on, it was like a bigger ram jet of air going into the intake.
With the ACI being open in the front, and having the design it does underneath the spoiler, it actually acts as a tunnel to force more air into the intake. A could litterally FEEL a difference.
You will see an increase in temps while sitting idling, or moving at a creep, but at normal speeds(and highway driving) the temp will run normal. The way the splitter goes back and butts up against the center air dam, is what causes the low speed/sitting air blockage. But, once you're moving, it directs more air to the radiator and intake.
I would recommend you change the T stat to a 160, but it isn't a necessity.
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Won't the Vararam get more air into the engine though, vs other intakes when you have an ACI? This is what I mean't as opposed to keeping the car cooler.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sneakelman
Vortex Rammer. Same as I have on mine. Once I put the ACI front splitter on, it was like a bigger ram jet of air going into the intake.
With the ACI being open in the front, and having the design it does underneath the spoiler, it actually acts as a tunnel to force more air into the intake. A could litterally FEEL a difference.
You will see an increase in temps while sitting idling, or moving at a creep, but at normal speeds(and highway driving) the temp will run normal. The way the splitter goes back and butts up against the center air dam, is what causes the low speed/sitting air blockage. But, once you're moving, it directs more air to the radiator and intake.
I would recommend you change the T stat to a 160, but it isn't a necessity.
I run a home made air intake like the Vortex. I run the ACP not ACI front splitter and front under tray. Makes my car a front breather.

these type of intake can out perform just about all other intakes, providing it is sealled very tight, and enough air gets into the radiator area that also cools the the radiator and air for the engine.

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trans cooler left- K&N filter( dry no oil) oil cooler right
Radiator in back - old pic have new Ron Davis 4 core in now

No need for 165t body as you need engine temps in the 180 to 220 range.



Originally Posted by mfastert
Won't the Vararam get more air into the engine though, vs other intakes when you have an ACI? This is what I mean't as opposed to keeping the car cooler.
No - the screen area is need to keep the engine bay cooler to a point. If your consistently at speeds above 80 mph, duct taping the screens provides better aerodynamics and the v-ram wont work.

Picture above does not have duct tape over the screens. There was a noticeable difference in aerodynamics above 100-150 mph when the screens where duct tape shut. ( road course only not on public roads)


My temps:
Oil temps 145-160 even on the hottest days M1 15-W50
coolant temps 210-225 even on the hottest days - water and 2 bottles of water wetter. No coolant.

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Also yes I like the look. But for a street only car or a car used mostly on public roads, I would not do it again.

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mfastert
Won't the Vararam get more air into the engine though, vs other intakes when you have an ACI? This is what I mean't as opposed to keeping the car cooler.
The ACI blocks more air from getting to the radiator which makes the engine coolant temps go up a bit. It doesn't interfere at all with the intake air going into the air filter. It also traps more hotter air near the outside air temperature sensor which when idling will show up as an increase on your climate control outside temperature readout. once moving again the air will start to flow and the temp will drop.

Also with the vararam setup the air flows through the vent screens around the foglights, not under the car. The ACI spoiler will have zero impact on the flow of air to the vararam filter. People with a vortex setup will however see a difference because the car is a bottom breather which means the air intake sucks air in from under the radiator shroud, ie; the square cutout in the radiator shroud that is necessary when you install that type of filter. With the ACI spoiler it acts like a scooped lip that directs air up into the radiator area, which is where the filter is located.

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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Wow thanks for all the replies

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I removed my stock air dam, after lowering the car and got tired of hearing it scrap all over the place. No ill effects on any of the temperatures




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Originally Posted by Glennm27
With the ACI front splitter you leave the center section of the airdam in place which is the piece that directs air into the radiator. You will lose some of the air as the ACI splitter does block some of the air heading in that direction BUT you will still be ok...

I ran and ACI fron splitter for 4 years on my old C5 and used the car at the track with no problems. There was a slight increase in coolant temps but nothing to cause problems..

I've been running the ACI in FL for many years now on a DD and only notice a slight increase in temps. Keep your radiator clean of debris and you'll be fine.
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